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Viltrumite — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 09:40 AM)
The movie was released two years before I was born, I basically grew up with it, but even I can see its flaws. The crowd reactions during the Metropolis fight scene were ridiculous. What the hell is this, a sports game? I'd be in a train out of there, for all it's worth, given that Zod and his buddies can go anywhere in under five minutes. It's smarter than being at what is potentially ground zero, though.
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dpcole7 — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 04:42 PM)
So why don't you go back to 1980 and make it with the resources you'd be given, which wasn't much
Stamp and Reeve play their roles VERY well.
"Borish"? "Boorish", surely?
And what do the Finnish have to do with this movie?
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siukong — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 12:23 PM)
So why don't you go back to 1980 and make it with the resources you'd be given, which wasn't much
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toph1980 — 13 years ago(October 18, 2012 09:09 AM)
I just finished watching both films back-to-back and found Superman II inferior in every way possible. It does have some decent moments (Lester's slapstick comedy included) but overall the direction felt average and so did the story (all over the place, from the alternative opening scene to the final battle), cinematography (flat, and on purpose I might add - according to the trivia), visual effects (they discarded the front projection technique used in the first one and came up with a new, more comic book-like technique instead) and so on etc. Lex Luthor's body double was a pain in the ass to watch and so was Superman's mother and council when it was obvious it should have been Brando.
But more importantly, what was wrong with Margot Kidder's face? I know they were shot back-to-back but she looked more thin than usual, and thus different (haircut aside). I mean, you could clearly tell it was her yet I kept asking myself "Why does she look so different?"
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tim-r-kramer — 13 years ago(October 29, 2012 10:49 AM)
I think when I was younger, I was able to ignore many of the flaws associated with Superman II. Today, I certainly see them. There are a lot of inconsistencies, implausible plot sequences, and use of stupid comedy. Still, I feel that the Metropolis battle was spectacular considering the time this was filmed. Lester's inclusion of some really out of place "comedy" during the battle was unfortunate, but otherwise, I thought that this sequence was the highlight of the four Reeve films. Clearly, had Donner been able to finish Superman II, a more cohesive film would have resulted. While the theatrical version of Superman II is far from perfect, I don't know how it can be called "awful."
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TheSolarSailor — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 07:52 AM)
obvious troll is obvious
why people are feeding you is curiousThen why didn't you let the 4 month dormancy of this thread stay in tact? Why did you bump it when it died way back in February? I mean, come now!
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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Gunslinger1919 — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 09:09 PM)
Maybe the OP is trolling, but that doesn't mean he isn't right. This movie is terrible. The acting is terrible. By everyone. The characters make incomprehensible decisions throughout. Why does Superman decide to take away his powers? Why does Lois let him? She loves Superman, not Clark. The bad guys are hokey. Superman for some reason gets new and stupid powers. Superman is apparently an idiot who forgets he got rid of his powers, gets in a fight, and is surprised when he gets hurt. Superman gets his powers back with no explanation. All this leads to: the plot is bad.
And notice I didn't mention the effects? That's the least of this movie's problems.
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siukong — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 01:45 PM)
I have to agree 100%. Even completely disregarding the effects (which I would call dated, but fine for late-70s/early-80s), this movie is filled with problems. I'm hard-pressed to recall a movie more riddled with "incomprehensible decisions" and other plotholes. From conversations on the moon to hurricane breath that can toss cars around but barely affects the guy licking his ice cream cone to the more serious cases like a fully human Superman traversing the tundra twice in just a dress shirt and slacks there are so many, I honestly wouldn't even know where to start, and would probably get too frustrated before coming anywhere near finishing.
We have not one, but two status-quo resets that destroy much of what little plot/character development we are shown: the reversal of the "if you make this decision, it's FOREVER" loss of powers, and the amnesia kiss. (I'm glad I didn't watch I and II at the same time - the trifecta of those two plus the spin the world backwards to turn back time bit would likely have been too much for me).
Bad writing, inconsistent line delivery, unfunny comedic bits. All in all, it just seems very sloppy and slapped together. And don't even get me started on the most blatant, distracting product placement that I've seen since Transformers and I, Robot. -
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Darthmauler_megaa — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 06:56 AM)
Very few people say they're awful. People who do are just more vocal because they're annoyed people enjoy something they don't understand.
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franzkabuki — 10 years ago(November 08, 2015 06:44 AM)
Sure it's cheesy and broad as customary for this type of film, but it never crosses the line to outright idiocy. It's also quite entertaining and adventurous with some nice scenery and stuff. Liked it much better than the Star Wars follow-up from the same year.
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