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    GorchBrother — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:39 AM)

    The first movie is set on
    Halloween
    night, aka Samhain in the ancient celtic traditions, for a reason.
    It's not like in the middle of Home Alone 2 they realised that subsequent Home Alone movies could exploit and expand on the idea of Christmas and Christmas trees, Christmas presents etc in that movie.
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      DrDanielChallis — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:23 AM)

      You should read the Halloween (I) novelization - it actually starts out with a curse from hundreds of years ago that also caused Michael's great grandfather to snap

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        mav100000 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:05 PM)

        Still get a kick out of it every time he pronounces Samhain incorrectly!
        Cheers mate!

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          dave626 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 05:06 PM)

          Dr. Dan, it's been a few years, but I definitely remember that. I own the book. It is a neat little add on. Sadly, since it was book only and not in the movie, it's not exactly canon, but more of "Curtis Richards" licensed embellishment meant to fill pages.
          In other words, not Carpenter's idea.
          mav, at least Halloween III got it right. I think Halloween 6 producer's cut got it wrong again though. Loomis was a doctor, not a warlock/male witch like Cochran. Loomis wouldn't know how to pronounce it, but Cochran definitely would.
          "He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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            cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 09:48 PM)

            And he did. In America we pronounce it Samhain. Not Sowhain, or however it's spelled.
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              Irishdrummer007 — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 05:49 PM)

              "In America we pronounce it Samhain. Not Sowhain, or however it's spelled"
              Well Samhain is not a American word. It is A Irish word. It is Pronounced Sowin. No matter if you are from America or not.

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                cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 08:44 PM)

                Americans pronounce words differently. Like schedule. In England the emphasize the H like Shedule. In America it's more like skedule. There's many others.
                RIP Gene Wilder. One of the funniest people of all time. RIP Robert Vaughn

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                  Leo_Rossi — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 08:54 PM)

                  Well Samhain is not a American word. It is A Irish word. It is Pronounced Sowin. No matter if you are from America or not.
                  You're wasting your time trying to reason with this cat. Him and logic mix like oil and water.

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                    cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 10:54 PM)

                    No, he's okay. He's just confused is all, Leo. He's not American.
                    RIP Gene Wilder. One of the funniest people of all time. RIP Robert Vaughn

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                      Leo_Rossi — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 11:45 PM)

                      You are the "cat" I'm referring to. You say that Americans pronounce things different than people from other countries. Loomis isn't American, he's English. Don't you think he would pronounce the word closer to what the Irish would rather than how an American would?

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                        cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 09:27 PM)

                        I know. I'm just joshing you. And it depends how long he's been in America, I guess. People lose their accent, dialect, whatever after living in a place and being around the inhabitants long enough.
                        RIP Gene Wilder. One of the funniest people of all time. RIP Robert Vaughn

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                          Arturo_Globenfeldt — 4 years ago(July 13, 2021 03:26 PM)

                          Go hiontach ar fad!
                          I suppose we get revenge by pronouncing the Maryland in Chicken Maryland as if it's Mary Land instead of Maralind.

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                            Jinx to ennien — 5 years ago(March 19, 2021 07:56 PM)

                            I’m in America and I pronounce it correctly.

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                              DrDanielChallis — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 11:34 AM)

                              I always figured it was good to go for the book, but not really a part of the movie canon - a little bonus for taking the time to read - I love additional content that only enhances without drastically changing anything or spelling it out for me
                              it actually helped connect III to the first two movies, just as far as pagan lore being the thread through all 3 of those when keeping the novelization in mind

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                                cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 12:01 PM)

                                That is interesting, Dr. You've read the novel for III too?
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                                  DrDanielChallis — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 03:37 PM)

                                  no, I haven't - perhaps I misspoke?
                                  I had meant that the Halloween novelization helped to bolster the pagan theme and one could keep it in mind while viewing HI-HIII and then from that perspective, there would be an overarching Halloween theme that runs through those
                                  I think I saw an ebook or the audio reading of HIII on youtube but I haven't read/listened yet if my memory is correct
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                                    cjh8504 — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 05:20 PM)

                                    I'm reading a book on the Titanic now from, Reader's Digest that's quite interesting. What about you?
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                                        simest — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 01:36 AM)

                                        Still get a kick out of it every time he pronounces Samhain incorrectly!
                                        Me too!
                                        Having grown up in Ireland where the word originated, it makes me wince when I hear Pleasence mispronounce it.
                                        Thank heavens Dan O'Herlihy was on hand for the next movie to better inform them!
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                                          GorchBrother — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 01:58 AM)

                                          Good owl' Dan! He's good craic, so he is.
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