so he starts by blowing up the gas station for no reason, and ends up destroying half the city - not caring who gets hur
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DeadandBuried81 — 10 years ago(September 09, 2015 12:51 PM)
so he starts by blowing up the gas station for no reason, and ends up destroying half the city - not caring who gets hurt. Why?
Growing up, I thought Rambo was the good guy. Watching this crappy movie today I realize he is the villain. Funny.
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ralph_2ndedition — 10 years ago(September 11, 2015 12:57 PM)
I always saw the "rampage" as him turning the town-environment into his own element.
He understand chaos, noise and darkness, Teasle doesn't (or at least functions less well in those circumstances).
So my take on it is that it is a combination of strategy (hindering communication and lowering visibility for his enemy) and making his surrounding more comfortable for him while making it less comfortable for his adversary. -
beierfilms — 10 years ago(September 11, 2015 04:54 PM)
It's hard to get angry at Rambo given that he's suffering a PTSD episode and more than a little crazy. In many ways, it's to his credit that he didn't kill any of the cops.
I think at this point in the film, things have escalated that he's in full blown delusion mode and thinking of the town as an enemy base he has to lay siege to. He buts power and he cuts the fuel supply as one might in an assault. Perhaps he knew the place had been evacuated or, maybe more likely, at this point he's just extra nuts and thinks he's still fighting a war. We could assume that the reason he doesn't kill the cops is actually seeing them reminds him that they aren't enemy soldiers which is why he just disables them rather than killing them. By the same token, I don't think he's blow the gas station if he saw anyone in there. Granted that's just easy movie logic (since there totally could have been someone in there), but I'm willing to give him a pass in this film (not the ultra-violent sequels), because he's obviously crazy and has had a really bad last few days.
Or, to put it another way, I'm against deadly force in theory but, if I'd just found out my last friend was dead, been brutally beaten by corrupt cops, and spent the last two days with the cops trying to murder me; I'd probably blow up the damn gas station too. I'd also probably have killed that damn cop with the sniper rifle on purpose instead of on accident (cuz seriously, while I respect a lot of police officers, when you try several times to shoot an un-armed man, you deserve whatever retaliation you get). -
spartanmerc — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 09:17 AM)
My take on why he did that was because
A) It cripples their capacity to persue him
B) It served as a distraction to get closer to Teasle
C) He had been warning them not to push him, they pushed too far and he showed them what kind of war he coud bring to them.
Like he said before, he gave them a war they wouldn't believe. In town (peaceful areas) Teasle was in charge, in the wild (in combat, war) Rambo was the superior fighter. -
tub51461 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 10:15 AM)
He's a good guy in the sense that the police department antagonized him & coerced him into attack mode. He's a bad guy in the sense he's a violent person with a high degree of rage and insanity against those who mess with him. Fought this town like he did Vietnam. Make sure the innocent are out of the way and trick the enemy into making a mistake which they did. The villains is Bryan Dennehy & Jack Starrett (Teasle & Gault). Neither should ever been officers of the law.
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banditsroost — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 07:11 AM)
I don't think he cared about the town or the people in it. He lost his last friend to cancer and was hopeless after that. His grudge was against Teasle. He gave him the chance to let it go but Teasle just kept pushing.
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JoeCorrao — 10 years ago(October 02, 2015 09:58 PM)
He was far from the villain. It's the story of a stressed out vet pushed too far. One of Stallone's top 2 or 3 movies.
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Elder_Yautija — 10 years ago(November 07, 2015 01:28 AM)
Yep, Rambo IS the villain here. You're right on the money.
In the book, he even gets killed in the end. The movie lets him off with a much lighter punishment, sending him off to prison.
You gotta understand that, although he's the bad guy, he's not evil. Just traumatized, and the unnecessary force used against him in the first 15 minutes of the film by the policemen sets him off on the escape first, and on the rampage later, when the police persist in hunting him.
Being hunted down by many strangers brought him back to the war zone, in his scarred psyche, so he started acting again as if he was back in the Vietnam jungle.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 10 years ago(November 08, 2015 05:55 AM)
Rambo was somewhat insane in the movie though. Though not as insane as he was in the book. Speaking of which if you haven't read the book, you should. It's pretty good. Unlike the movie you really get to know a lot more about both Rambo and Teasle and why they're doing what they do.
More on topic though, Teasle is at fault for the whole thing. Like Rambo says to Trautman when he first talks to him over the radio, all he wanted was something to eat. He even told Teasle this when he first met Teasle. Instead of allowing it he told him to go 30 miles away to a diner to eat. If Teasle actually was a good cop he'd have bought him some food.
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frankzappayay — 10 years ago(December 12, 2015 11:32 AM)
If you think this movie is crappy then you are a moron. Whether you agree or disagree with his actions is completely irrelevant. It was deliberately left to the viewer to form their own opinions on that. But the film itself is fantastic.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 02:07 PM)
You think that's bad you should read the book where
Rambo kills all of Teasle's men, kills 2 civilians who joined into help the police search for Rambo after the killing of Teasle's men,blows up the police station which has Teasle's war medals in it, kills Teasle,and thinks to himself that it was okay to kill Teasle's men.
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TheLordofTheHarvest — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 10:33 PM)
I took why he did it as 3 main reasons:
- He was following basic war routines of taking out the enemies supply and weapons sources. Gas gave automobiles power and the gun store represented their ability to attack back. He was so far deep in his mental issues that he interpreted both as giving them an advantage but that's just how war works.
- He hated the town as it represented what all was wrong with America at that point and how they treated veterans and those down and out. Rambo was being pushed around for years and he finally snapped and fought back so he took his aggression out on Hope. It had to happen somewhere and it was the town's fate.
- And lastly he did it as the way to show his power and dominance over Teasle. Teasle bragged in the beginning of the movie and boasted that he was the town's savior and was supposed to keep it calm and the bums out. It was HIS job to do keep Rambo out; so Rambo more or less got his checkmate by destroying the place and violating Teasle's pride and #1 job: protect Hope. He was it's savior but couldn't save it from getting destroyed. It showed how weak and useless Teasle really was and I'm sure it lead him to admit his failure. That was Rambo's ultimate form of victory here.
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 05:45 AM)
He was following basic war routines of taking out the enemies supply and weapons sources. Gas gave automobiles power and the gun store represented their ability to attack back. He was so far deep in his mental issues that he interpreted both as giving them an advantage but that's just how war works.
That's an interesting point, but I think he blew up the gas station to create a big diversion whereby all the police would be drawn out to the other side of town where the explosion was, thus leaving Rambo and Teasle alone in the deserted part of town (Teasle knew it was a diversion, thanks to being a soldier himself, so he stayed, and Rambo knew he would stay put as well).
Rambo then blows up the gun store in order to reveal Teasle's hiding position (he see's him on the rooftop, peaking up briefly, after the store explodes). After that, Rambo then moves in on him for the kill.
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fede_4488 — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 12:52 PM)
The writers blew it by making John go all Rambo (pun intended). I wish the movie ended at the mountains. When John went to the town, it turned into an over-the-top action movie (which is what the sequels were about)
