so he starts by blowing up the gas station for no reason, and ends up destroying half the city - not caring who gets hur
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spartanmerc — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 09:17 AM)
My take on why he did that was because
A) It cripples their capacity to persue him
B) It served as a distraction to get closer to Teasle
C) He had been warning them not to push him, they pushed too far and he showed them what kind of war he coud bring to them.
Like he said before, he gave them a war they wouldn't believe. In town (peaceful areas) Teasle was in charge, in the wild (in combat, war) Rambo was the superior fighter. -
tub51461 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 10:15 AM)
He's a good guy in the sense that the police department antagonized him & coerced him into attack mode. He's a bad guy in the sense he's a violent person with a high degree of rage and insanity against those who mess with him. Fought this town like he did Vietnam. Make sure the innocent are out of the way and trick the enemy into making a mistake which they did. The villains is Bryan Dennehy & Jack Starrett (Teasle & Gault). Neither should ever been officers of the law.
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banditsroost — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 07:11 AM)
I don't think he cared about the town or the people in it. He lost his last friend to cancer and was hopeless after that. His grudge was against Teasle. He gave him the chance to let it go but Teasle just kept pushing.
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JoeCorrao — 10 years ago(October 02, 2015 09:58 PM)
He was far from the villain. It's the story of a stressed out vet pushed too far. One of Stallone's top 2 or 3 movies.
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Elder_Yautija — 10 years ago(November 07, 2015 01:28 AM)
Yep, Rambo IS the villain here. You're right on the money.
In the book, he even gets killed in the end. The movie lets him off with a much lighter punishment, sending him off to prison.
You gotta understand that, although he's the bad guy, he's not evil. Just traumatized, and the unnecessary force used against him in the first 15 minutes of the film by the policemen sets him off on the escape first, and on the rampage later, when the police persist in hunting him.
Being hunted down by many strangers brought him back to the war zone, in his scarred psyche, so he started acting again as if he was back in the Vietnam jungle.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 10 years ago(November 08, 2015 05:55 AM)
Rambo was somewhat insane in the movie though. Though not as insane as he was in the book. Speaking of which if you haven't read the book, you should. It's pretty good. Unlike the movie you really get to know a lot more about both Rambo and Teasle and why they're doing what they do.
More on topic though, Teasle is at fault for the whole thing. Like Rambo says to Trautman when he first talks to him over the radio, all he wanted was something to eat. He even told Teasle this when he first met Teasle. Instead of allowing it he told him to go 30 miles away to a diner to eat. If Teasle actually was a good cop he'd have bought him some food.
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frankzappayay — 10 years ago(December 12, 2015 11:32 AM)
If you think this movie is crappy then you are a moron. Whether you agree or disagree with his actions is completely irrelevant. It was deliberately left to the viewer to form their own opinions on that. But the film itself is fantastic.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 02:07 PM)
You think that's bad you should read the book where
Rambo kills all of Teasle's men, kills 2 civilians who joined into help the police search for Rambo after the killing of Teasle's men,blows up the police station which has Teasle's war medals in it, kills Teasle,and thinks to himself that it was okay to kill Teasle's men.
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TheLordofTheHarvest — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 10:33 PM)
I took why he did it as 3 main reasons:
- He was following basic war routines of taking out the enemies supply and weapons sources. Gas gave automobiles power and the gun store represented their ability to attack back. He was so far deep in his mental issues that he interpreted both as giving them an advantage but that's just how war works.
- He hated the town as it represented what all was wrong with America at that point and how they treated veterans and those down and out. Rambo was being pushed around for years and he finally snapped and fought back so he took his aggression out on Hope. It had to happen somewhere and it was the town's fate.
- And lastly he did it as the way to show his power and dominance over Teasle. Teasle bragged in the beginning of the movie and boasted that he was the town's savior and was supposed to keep it calm and the bums out. It was HIS job to do keep Rambo out; so Rambo more or less got his checkmate by destroying the place and violating Teasle's pride and #1 job: protect Hope. He was it's savior but couldn't save it from getting destroyed. It showed how weak and useless Teasle really was and I'm sure it lead him to admit his failure. That was Rambo's ultimate form of victory here.
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 05:45 AM)
He was following basic war routines of taking out the enemies supply and weapons sources. Gas gave automobiles power and the gun store represented their ability to attack back. He was so far deep in his mental issues that he interpreted both as giving them an advantage but that's just how war works.
That's an interesting point, but I think he blew up the gas station to create a big diversion whereby all the police would be drawn out to the other side of town where the explosion was, thus leaving Rambo and Teasle alone in the deserted part of town (Teasle knew it was a diversion, thanks to being a soldier himself, so he stayed, and Rambo knew he would stay put as well).
Rambo then blows up the gun store in order to reveal Teasle's hiding position (he see's him on the rooftop, peaking up briefly, after the store explodes). After that, Rambo then moves in on him for the kill.
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fede_4488 — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 12:52 PM)
The writers blew it by making John go all Rambo (pun intended). I wish the movie ended at the mountains. When John went to the town, it turned into an over-the-top action movie (which is what the sequels were about)
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replicant01 — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 08:09 PM)
Rambo quote to Teasle: "In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go. Let it go."
Teasle then proceeded to push & Rambo then proceeded to give him a war - destroying the town he was tasked with protecting & where he wrongly assumed he was safe from Rambo. -
robk86 — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 08:59 AM)
I saw it as all part of Rambo's strategy.
He blew up the gas station to create a distraction to lure most of the remaining deputies out. As the cops mentioned, the gas station was on edge of town. This can also be viewed as him cutting off their ability to escape.
He blew up the gun shop next as another distraction given its proximity to the police station. Whoever is watching will look in the direction of the gun shop while Rambo sneaks in from the opposite direction. This can also be viewed as him destroying their ammunitions depot (even though the police still had enough left-over to continue the "war").
Then, Rambo destroys the lights to disorient Teasle, already having seen that he is perched on the roof from his prior distraction.
Despite Rambo's strategy, Teasle had a chance to get Rambo, but he missed. Rambo didn't.
As for not caring who gets hurt, Trautman did say that Rambo was built to kill. He probably saw any innocents killed in war as collateral damage. As long as his objective was complete and hostiles were neutralized, it was justified.
My take on this film was that there were no good guys and no villains. Like Trautman said, John pushed too. Had he been more vocal with Teasle and Galt when he met them, they may not have responded as they did. He waited until he was already in the car exiting Hope before he asked Teasle if he could grab a bite to eat in town. When Teasle asked if he was visiting anybody, that would have been the right time to mention that he was just stopping in to town to eat before continuing to Portland. And Galt patiently asked for Rambo's name about 3-4 times before he got tired of Rambo's attitude. That does not excuse his physical abuse of Rambo, but Rambo's cooperation could have prevented it.
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Woodyanders — 7 years ago(March 15, 2019 03:28 PM)
Because the local cops roughed him up and hunted him down like a dog, which understandably pissed him off and sent him flying off the rails at the end.
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TaRaNRoD — 5 years ago(August 23, 2020 12:39 AM)
People here give very interesting thing on the matter, was pleasant to read.
And as for op calling it a "crappy" movie, you could show more restraint. Even if you don't like it, it's a fantastic movie.
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