So many things wrong here, I may as well go down a list:
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bigbadwolf666 — 2 years ago(December 22, 2023 03:02 AM)
This is Actually Scary,
And Without this in the Series, Freddy Wouldnt be Scary, and I actually wouldnt give him Credit.
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation. -
BobGunn — 10 years ago(August 30, 2015 04:41 PM)
part 5 is one of the stupidest things I've ever watched
Haha yeah.
If I'm not mistaken, Part 5 had its effects scenes done and shot
first
and the rest of the movie was written around them.
If that's true, it'd explain why the movie barely makes any sense at all. (Other NOES movies have their problems, but I don't remember any of the others seeming so clearly rushed) Part 4 has a similar feel, but isn't nearly as bad not great, but better.
I don't think any of them are all that great (almost all are great visually) but otherwise not so much. Even the first one isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's good, but I'd never say it's miles above any of the sequels, really.
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AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(August 31, 2015 08:44 AM)
Part 5 is a dud and personally bores me, but it has a more cohesive story than this film does. Just about nothing pertaining to Freddy's Revenge is logical, because truth be told it has no story. The whole thing is randomly based around "Nancy used to live here." But none of them even know her, so even that angle is uncooked. And unlike in every other film in the series, Freddy's motives and reasons why are so obscure and unrefined that they become senseless. Yeah the movie is "dark" but I don't think it's all that scary and is more bark than actual bite. Parts 1 and 3 are much more legitimately frightening as far as Krueger goes than part 2.
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qazu — 10 years ago(August 31, 2015 07:40 PM)
This movie is moronic as beep. It's the cheapest looking and most dated feeling entry. Little about it makes sense and it doesn't know what it is or wants to be. All the climaxes and jump sequences are silly. Freddy doesn't even act like Freddy here. He's some feeble boogie man with an attitude problem who laughably tries to get some wimpy kid to do his bidding for him and that fails most of the time. Revenge is the "ISHTAR" of horror.
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Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 01, 2015 03:54 AM)
The darkest, most serious and best depiction of Freddy in the whole series is in part 2. Its a well made horror movie unlike most of the crappy sequels which slowly started turning freddy into a joke starting with the overrated, dated campy part 3.
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BobGunn — 10 years ago(September 03, 2015 12:32 AM)
Wes Craven RIP created a great character in Freddy Krueger but in this movie they lost him. In part 3 they found him again.
Look at this way: It's 1985. You've been asked to make a sequel to Nightmare on Elm Street (which is not yet anywhere near being considered a classic horror movie) and you have none of the original staff or cast (other than Robert Englund) backing you up. Do you rehash the exact same movie, or try and do something a little bit different?
Other than the fact that all of the kills in 3 are committed in the "Dream World", in what way is it closer to the original than 2 is?
If anything, 3 gets further away by starting the trend of over-explaining Freddy's backstory which is completely unnecessary and setting Freddy on the path of becoming a lame comedic character. -
AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 01:36 AM)
No, part three struck the perfect balance between Freddy's being totally frightening while showcasing his aptitude for sadistic wordplay. Part Three was Freddy as his scariest. It showcased that he wasn't just so buggy monster that could easily be outwitted or possibly ran from. There was candor, intellect and wit behind his evil, which allowed him to stay two steps ahead of his prey and made made him more of a threat than he had been before.
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Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 08:14 PM)
You are in the vast miniroty and for good reason. Freddy started in the dark manner in part 3 much like he was in the orignal and part 2, but after the first 15 minutes or so its downhill. One liners and puns galore as well as seeing him out of the shadows in more well lit areas that diminished his scare factor significantly. It doesnt help that the movie around him is just as cheesy.
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AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 11:03 PM)
I'm not in the "vast minority" at all. In fact if anyone is, it's you. It's pretty common knowledge that
Dream Warriors
(part three) is arguably the
most
popular movie in the series, after the original. Robert Englund himself noted that of all the movies, barring the original, part three is the one that fans overall tend to revere the most. Hell, even here at IMDB it has one of the strongest ratings. You're attempting to project your own feelings as if they're generally true, but they're not. No where close. -
Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 11:41 PM)
No, I meant you are in the vast minority in regards to thinking Freddy was at or near his scariest in part 3 which was the point I was making. I know part 3 as a movie is a fan favorite (even though I personally hate it). BTW Englund himself prefers the orignal and New Nightmare to Dream Warriors.
Most people tend to think he was at his darkest in Freddy's Revenge regardless of their feelings towards the movie itself which are split. I'm one of those people. -
HereMyDear — 10 years ago(September 21, 2015 06:15 AM)
Freddy is not his scariest in this movie. Freddy is scariest when he's at his most efficient and that is not the case in this particular installment. Here he's all bluster with little actual capability and is weaker than he was in any of them. Even in Freddy vs. Jason, he does a better job of manipulating Vorhees into killing for him and generating fear on his behalf than he does in this. However one feels about the jokes & one-liners that started becoming more apparent in the next movie, there is no denying that the Krueger of part three was much more clever and proficient there than he is here. This movie is all smoke & mirrors. It tries to hide behind darkness to mask not knowing what to do with Freddy or how to properly use him.
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AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 23, 2015 06:16 AM)
^ Thank you. Some people wanting to pretend that Krueger is alpha in this movie, just because his personality was tempered, is odd. He was sluggish, couldn't do anything for himself and practically spineless. This is why he is absolutely scarier in part three - one liners and all. He wasn't requesting anybody's assistance, could do just about anything and his prey little chance of escaping him. If he had his eye on you, you were pretty much toast. His threat was real.
In part two, if you were lucky enough to just not be standing in his way or could run fast enough, you had a reasonable chance of survival. So yeah, he was 2x scarier there than he is here. Dream Warriors Krueger makes Revenge Krueger look like a joke.