So many things wrong here, I may as well go down a list:
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qazu — 10 years ago(August 31, 2015 07:40 PM)
This movie is moronic as beep. It's the cheapest looking and most dated feeling entry. Little about it makes sense and it doesn't know what it is or wants to be. All the climaxes and jump sequences are silly. Freddy doesn't even act like Freddy here. He's some feeble boogie man with an attitude problem who laughably tries to get some wimpy kid to do his bidding for him and that fails most of the time. Revenge is the "ISHTAR" of horror.
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Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 01, 2015 03:54 AM)
The darkest, most serious and best depiction of Freddy in the whole series is in part 2. Its a well made horror movie unlike most of the crappy sequels which slowly started turning freddy into a joke starting with the overrated, dated campy part 3.
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BobGunn — 10 years ago(September 03, 2015 12:32 AM)
Wes Craven RIP created a great character in Freddy Krueger but in this movie they lost him. In part 3 they found him again.
Look at this way: It's 1985. You've been asked to make a sequel to Nightmare on Elm Street (which is not yet anywhere near being considered a classic horror movie) and you have none of the original staff or cast (other than Robert Englund) backing you up. Do you rehash the exact same movie, or try and do something a little bit different?
Other than the fact that all of the kills in 3 are committed in the "Dream World", in what way is it closer to the original than 2 is?
If anything, 3 gets further away by starting the trend of over-explaining Freddy's backstory which is completely unnecessary and setting Freddy on the path of becoming a lame comedic character. -
AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 01:36 AM)
No, part three struck the perfect balance between Freddy's being totally frightening while showcasing his aptitude for sadistic wordplay. Part Three was Freddy as his scariest. It showcased that he wasn't just so buggy monster that could easily be outwitted or possibly ran from. There was candor, intellect and wit behind his evil, which allowed him to stay two steps ahead of his prey and made made him more of a threat than he had been before.
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Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 08:14 PM)
You are in the vast miniroty and for good reason. Freddy started in the dark manner in part 3 much like he was in the orignal and part 2, but after the first 15 minutes or so its downhill. One liners and puns galore as well as seeing him out of the shadows in more well lit areas that diminished his scare factor significantly. It doesnt help that the movie around him is just as cheesy.
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AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 11:03 PM)
I'm not in the "vast minority" at all. In fact if anyone is, it's you. It's pretty common knowledge that
Dream Warriors
(part three) is arguably the
most
popular movie in the series, after the original. Robert Englund himself noted that of all the movies, barring the original, part three is the one that fans overall tend to revere the most. Hell, even here at IMDB it has one of the strongest ratings. You're attempting to project your own feelings as if they're generally true, but they're not. No where close. -
Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 19, 2015 11:41 PM)
No, I meant you are in the vast minority in regards to thinking Freddy was at or near his scariest in part 3 which was the point I was making. I know part 3 as a movie is a fan favorite (even though I personally hate it). BTW Englund himself prefers the orignal and New Nightmare to Dream Warriors.
Most people tend to think he was at his darkest in Freddy's Revenge regardless of their feelings towards the movie itself which are split. I'm one of those people. -
HereMyDear — 10 years ago(September 21, 2015 06:15 AM)
Freddy is not his scariest in this movie. Freddy is scariest when he's at his most efficient and that is not the case in this particular installment. Here he's all bluster with little actual capability and is weaker than he was in any of them. Even in Freddy vs. Jason, he does a better job of manipulating Vorhees into killing for him and generating fear on his behalf than he does in this. However one feels about the jokes & one-liners that started becoming more apparent in the next movie, there is no denying that the Krueger of part three was much more clever and proficient there than he is here. This movie is all smoke & mirrors. It tries to hide behind darkness to mask not knowing what to do with Freddy or how to properly use him.
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AdrianLePier — 10 years ago(September 23, 2015 06:16 AM)
^ Thank you. Some people wanting to pretend that Krueger is alpha in this movie, just because his personality was tempered, is odd. He was sluggish, couldn't do anything for himself and practically spineless. This is why he is absolutely scarier in part three - one liners and all. He wasn't requesting anybody's assistance, could do just about anything and his prey little chance of escaping him. If he had his eye on you, you were pretty much toast. His threat was real.
In part two, if you were lucky enough to just not be standing in his way or could run fast enough, you had a reasonable chance of survival. So yeah, he was 2x scarier there than he is here. Dream Warriors Krueger makes Revenge Krueger look like a joke. -
Electrical1 — 10 years ago(September 23, 2015 08:39 PM)
You are both in the vast minority in regards to Freddy, and thats a fact. Freddy was a lot darker, more sinister, had better make up and was used more effectively in part 2. Part 3 was the beginning of a slippy downhill slope where Freddy was becoming more "hip" and "MTV" which is what Dream Warriors started.
Even a lot fans of Dream Warriors who also dislike Freddy's Revenge realise that freddy was a lot more serious and creepy in part 2 than he was in part 3. -
HereMyDear — 10 years ago(September 24, 2015 08:47 PM)
No sir, that is not a "fact." It's an opinion; a biased and speculative one, based on what you choose to see and want to think. What is a FACT is that ANOES3 is and has always been an overall better reviewed and received movie than ANOES2, and that Fred was written to be more organized and forceful in it than in the latter. All this spiel you're babbling on about what is "vast minority," "MTV" and "hip" is futile and doesn't mean anything. Fred was more serious in the second movie. Sure. Who denied that? But serious =/= scary. My position stands: Fred is scariest when he is his most self-sustained and powerful, and for all of his "seriousness" those are traits that he tends to lack in ANOES2, which renders him less scary in it.
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Durham_christine — 9 years ago(October 27, 2016 11:20 AM)
I'm actually with you. I don't like Dream Warriors at all. It was good until Kristen second dream,then it goes downhill from there. Nancy looks terrible in that one. It wasn't worth bringing her back. It has such cheesy lines ("In my dreams I'm the wizard master!", gimmie a break), it's so dated and becomes more like Captain Planet and the Planeteers. It's seems far less a threat when it's all these kids at once against Freddy. And Nancy's death was the stupidest ever. She really believed Freddy was dead just because the mirrors broke? Yeah right. Freddy'd Dead and 3 are the worst for me.