Is Jesse Gay?
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Lyco499 — 13 years ago(November 05, 2012 02:12 PM)
I love how from what some of the replies have said a guy can make out with girls but still be gay, does that mean a guy can make out with a guy and still be straight?
I know, I'm gay myself. I hate this movie by the way, it's a smudge on the awesome Nightmare name (just like the remake, blegh) but even as a kid I remember noticing the homoerotic themes. There's the stuff with the coach in the shower, the obvious "man inside me" thing etc.
Oh and OP your thing your argument about closeted married men is a little off. I mean by arguing you can't deny someone is gay because they're married due to lots of bastards screwing up women's lives by marrying them when they're gay is just silly. With that kind of argument you could say nothing is certain.
As for it being gay even for the eighties as well, I actually disagree with you. The mid eighties to ninties were homoerotic to hell and back. I don't know if Americans would even have heard of them but look at boy bands such as Take That when they first started. They are the gayest group of men I have ever seen in my life and yet they're all straight. Seriously, codpieces were worn.
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jmr348 — 13 years ago(December 29, 2012 11:43 PM)
Have to agree about late 80s and early 90s culture. Ever see Kiss in their no make-up days? Their dress and moves in those videos are way over the top and Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley have slept with more women than we've probably even met.
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norman-dostal — 12 years ago(October 24, 2013 03:37 PM)
Hardly a smudge! without this one, which was a big hit, there would be no others!! Just saw it again last night-its very creepy and well done-Freddy is still very frightening before he becam totally camp
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kepotaz — 13 years ago(February 15, 2013 02:12 AM)
The whole Freddy thing was a metaphor for his homosexuality. It was the thing inside him that he couldn't control. He couldn't control his homosexual desires and because of his upbringing or something he felt that being gay was equal to being some freak serial killer. Teenagers tend to exaggerate things.
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boramaster — 12 years ago(October 01, 2013 03:25 AM)
Fear is the operative word.
Let's walk this back a bit. What this version does, and bless its weird no heart, is to put a male into the traditional female role. So. Ok, not what I would call a
great
film, but one that works well on its own terms. I really expected this film to suck. It doesn't -
Duragizer — 13 years ago(March 13, 2013 06:16 PM)
he went into a gay bar all on his own
The problem with using this as evidence to support Jesse as a homosexual is that we don't have access into his mind, so we can't know why he went to that bar. Did he know it was a gay bar? (I don't recall any overt indications that it was until Schneider showed up) Even if he did know it was, we can't know if he went there hoping to pick up a lover; he may have subconsciously went there hoping to find Schneider, seeking to direct Freedy's murderous impulses away from a loved one and onto a figure he disliked.
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TonyC4444 — 10 years ago(June 09, 2015 06:10 AM)
Sorry I know you wrote this a LONG time ago but I completly forgot about this thread and just saw this.
Most boys, teenage boys sneaking out to go to a bar, would walk into a Gay bar see everything going on and walk right back out. They wouldn't hang out till they get caught by their gay coach. I don't know that he necessarily went there looking for a lover, but he may have been just curious enough to check it out. I certainly see that as a possibility.
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mrdisorder — 10 years ago(August 28, 2015 06:55 PM)
Was it specifically a gay bar or just a fetish bar?
But yeah, my friend showed me this last night and said it was the gayest of the Nightmare movies so I went into the movie with this in mind.
So let's list off the gay components of this.- The cleaning the room scene, obviously.
- The gym teacher getting killed with his pants down in the shower. And as another user pointed out, he was attacked with BALLS.
- The whole "man inside of Jesse" thing.
- The most physically intimate scene between Jesse and his gf results in Jesse running away, spending the night at his shirtless friend's house (who appears to have leather sheets), and penetrating him in the middle of the night.
- Every victim that is penetrated is male, except at the very end. However, at this point Freddy is outside of Jesse.
Good movie
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crankyerma1984 — 12 years ago(April 10, 2013 02:55 PM)
I love how so many people are in obvious denial about this film. This was just about the most (possibly unintentionally) homoerotic horror film of all time. If you have doubts about it, that's your own personal prejudices coloring your view. Watch the documentary "Never Sleep Again." Everyone interviewed about the film says that whether or not it was intentional, the end result is probably the gayest major release horror film in history.
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michaeluk26 — 12 years ago(June 03, 2013 10:34 PM)
Yep. In fairness though ALL of the IMDb boards have the same topic posted over and over. Sadly this underrated horror movie only has the "gay" angle working for it and is the main reason the movie is still talked about. I loved it simply because I like Freddy dark and evil and he was at his most evil here, his makeup was amazing as well. People say it broke the rules while ignoring that the first film broke its own rules more than once. They wanted to go in a different angle for the sequel and it was a lesson learned on what NOT to do with Freddy, like having him using a human avatar when he is God in the dream world.
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jlgreenlee — 12 years ago(June 23, 2013 07:04 PM)
I think the movie is better than its reputation. And I agree with you, that even though it is criticized for breaking the rules, they were still coming up with the rules! Freddy did come out in the real world in part 1, arguably, so it wasn't a huge stretch. And they did a great job of keeping the same vibe from the first film. It's no masterpiece, but it's leagues ahead of Freddy's Dead.