I also rate this moive a 10. I don't see it as trying to make a statement or display artistic skills. To me it's a homma
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MuleDeer — 19 years ago(May 12, 2006 06:45 PM)
I have a hard time putting my finger on exactly why I don't like Silverado, but something about it just annoys me. Probably because it had potential, but was wasted. There are some nice sets, props and the overall look is nice, but you never feel an ounce of tension. I realize it doesn't need to try to be High Plains Drifter, but for god's sake there are never ANY doubts that all the good guys will live and all the bad guys will die. Killing off one of the main characters would have gone a long way to giving this film some weight, but Kasdan was crafting an Up With People Western, not anything with any grit.
Kasdan's Big Western Chill just didn't do it for me. I could buy Glenn, Glover & Dennehy as cowboys, but Kline & Goldblum just look ridiculously out of place, and Costner is flat-out annoying. He would have been the perfect character to DIE & at least create a LITTLE tension and suspense. I also grew extremely weary of the countless, knowing smiles between the good guys. Kline gazes lovingly at Scott Glenn, then smiles lovingly at Danny Glover, then smiles lovingly at Costner, then even smiles lovingly at Brian Dennehy. Geez, get a room already.
Come to think of it, Kasdan's characters in Big Chill shared lots of knowing glances, too. I kept waiting for the saloon piano player in Silverado to light into 'You Can't Always Get What You Want.' (But if you try sometime, you can get some smug cowboys to smile at each other a lot.) At least Kline gazes lovingly at the womenfolk, too. But then he goes and picks the ugly midget woman (who lived a year dangerously as a man) over Rosanna Arquette. Yuck. Talk about impaired judgment. What's with all the smiling? Did he gnaw on some peyote out there in the desert or what? Smoke some loco weed? Did he lick a toad?
I was disappointed when I first saw this in the theater and each time I've seen it since. I guess it's good enough that I've given it a few more chances since 1985, but unfortunately it's never gotten better for me. I'll give Kasdan some credit for attempting to revive the Western, which were dead at the time.
Pale Rider wasn't much better; an endless series of worn-out cliches. IMO the Western wasn't really revived until Unforgiven, a film so superior to these two mid-80s clunkers, it's not even close. It's like comparing an entree at Emeril's to two Happy Meals. -
Deathstalker2 — 19 years ago(May 14, 2006 01:32 AM)
Ha! Funny comments about Kline's shows of affection for his fellow mens!
Seriously, you sound just like my friend Mark, who is a BIG fan of Peckinpah and the classic westerns of the late 60s-early 70s. He really didn't like Silverado either, but he can't put his finger on why. He also tried to watch it numerous times over the years, and if one asks him if he liked it, he ultimately ends up saying "I've tried to watch it so many times I don't know how I feel about it."
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lmartin-17 — 19 years ago(June 02, 2006 04:05 PM)
You know what they say about opinionsSo here's mine. THIS IS THE GREATEST WESTERN EVER FILMED! Anybody says differently should be the poster child for "Don't Use Drugs!" "All Star Cast"? At the time they were all pretty new to the Hollywood scene. I had a MAJOR argument with a co-worker as to which was the better westernSilverado or Lonesome Dove. Of course I won. The cameos were greatJohn Cleese,Jeff Goldblum and James Gammon as the "Box Canyon Outlaw". The only western that comes close is "Shane".
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martin_corner — 19 years ago(June 03, 2006 07:33 AM)
Hey Mr Joker69, opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one.If it was that bad why did you watch it all the way through?? If something is bad I turn it over or stop the dvd, I don't watch it all the way through just so I can post a message on an internet board!! I agree it beats the pants off any John Wayne film.
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HawksRevenge — 19 years ago(July 21, 2006 01:10 PM)
Who is this stupid MR Joker 96 and why do we care about his opinion?, I personally saw this movie in the theatre twice, and it ranks as one of my favorite films, I get sick of these thread headers I can't believe people actually liked this movie, Terrible Movie or Worst movie I have ever seen
You don't have to look hard to find the value in Silverado unless you are an absolute moron, which is obviously the case here
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tomcat69w — 19 years ago(November 17, 2006 11:55 AM)
Amen! Unfortunately all of us who like this movie, give egghead's like MrJoker96 credence by getting P.O. and arguing endlessly when it's all a matter of opinion. I prefer this movie over many of the genre and especially over anything Sergio Leone did. Those Spaghetti Western's were ok in their day, but to me they don't hold up at all. Once Upon etc. was lousy as far as I'm concerned. I went to see it when it came out and fell asleep. So in that text, here would be my faves.
The Wild Bunch
Rio Bravo
Silverado
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Unforgiven
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snikt91 — 19 years ago(December 08, 2006 07:46 AM)
What's all this then?
I saw the movie for the first time in the theater. It started out with the slow pan around the small shack and I started thinking to myself, this is going to be another crappy, slow western. Then the movie decided to prove me wrong. The opening gun battle jump starts the film, it made me jump out of my seat with it's suddenness. Then, when Emmett walks out of the shack, and the panoramic view just keeps getting wider and wider, I knew that I was in for a treat. I can't understand the posters that complain about the acting, as most of it seemed perfect for the characters, with the exception of the settlers heading to Silverado, I will admit that there is some very bad acting there, including Rosanna Arquette, who I found highly annoying, and Jeff Goldblum as Slick. And I also can't understand peoples knocking Kevin Kline's performance. Comparing him to actors past just doesn't work, he doesn't try to stare like Eastwood, or swagger like Wayne. If anything, he brings a Zen element to the character that I could only compare to Redford as the Sundance Kid, as someone previously compared the film to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. And Paden does not, in my opinion, have romantic feelings for Stella, rather a genuine affection for a person with a similar attitude, and a dislike for the attitude and lifestyle of Hannah, which, as he states, is a hard way of looking at life. I found the writing to be quite good, the cinematography to be excellent, the production design and costumes to be the most authentic I've seen in a western and the editing quite well done. The best part for me was the Paden/Cobb storyline, two men with similar backgrounds and genuine affection for one another that have gone down different paths that make them reluctant enemies. Costner was refreshing as Jake, Glover stoic and determined to protect his family and friends, and show that, yes, there were black cowboys (30% of them by some estimates). Even Scott Glenn, who I usually find to be a bit on the wooden side, puts in a very decent performance. A great many fine actors in supporting roles, my faves being John Cleese and James Gammon. This movie literally had something for everyone and I think that 7/10 is low, though not quite 10/10.
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dave-holvey — 19 years ago(December 11, 2006 08:26 AM)
this film is one of the best films i have ever seen although i can understand why some people think it discrases westerns, it may not be the most serious western film ever but i thought everything about it was good the acting, the story, the cast, the locations and even the soundtrack it all fits in well together.
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angel-magician — 19 years ago(December 20, 2006 09:10 PM)
This is a most pleasurable romp through the wild west. Of course there is not enough of KCostner to suit me. I would much rather see a lot more of him than all the others put together. I first saw this on tv and then raced out to buy the video. Now have it on DVD and love it. Great western.
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raw_rustymeyers — 19 years ago(December 22, 2006 01:37 AM)
The actor that played Rosanna Arquettes husband was quite good;)
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dogsoldier_spoon-1 — 19 years ago(February 07, 2007 09:28 AM)
you call this masterpiece a bad western?
Okay yeah, masterpiece is a bit too much but this is a great entertaining movie that disirves at least a 7.
You wanna see a bad western? Go to your video store and rent American outlaws, wild wild west or blueberry
sure those are entertaining but not good westerns in contradiction to Silverado that is a good western
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testorca — 19 years ago(February 10, 2007 04:33 PM)
The original poster cant believe people liked it
I saw it fromn start to finish only recently, and I am at a loss as to why people hate it, and why the critics claim its one of the worst movies ever
Seriously its a great western