Sad NextGen is dead, over, gone?
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Nexus71 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 12:55 PM)
At certain moments I miss it but to me it is a snapshot of it's time and it reminds me of those years.About a reboot well to be honest like I said it was very much a product of it's time and the same premise wouldn't work nowadays TV tastes have changed considerably during the last 20-30 years and audiences have become more demanding so they would have to had radically changed the reboot for it to be successful to warrant the costs in producing it that fans of TNG wouldn't recognise it as TNG anymore.
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SpongeBob1945 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 01:09 PM)
Plus people want more realism. To do that they'd have to make all the characters Chinese because they will take over by the time we explore space if our atmosphere doesn't disappear first due to our magnetic field changing.
I'm just being silly. Or I am correct.
The next Data should be played by a CGI Donald Trump Cyborg? -
Nexus71 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 09:08 PM)
Well to be fair partially Kobi,First Contact was a very good Trek movie(besides some minor details)and Nemesis was a decent movie,that with some rewriting could have been a very good Trek movie (heard they cut out some more character moments from the film to make it have more action(although I would have replaced the Picard dune buggy part for a simple beaming up of the B4 parts and fill in the remaining time with those character moments,I think would have made for a more balanced movie)and if they changed the main Villain into Crosby's Romulan antagonist where there is an opportunity for Picard to convince Shinzon that he is being misled and used by Crosby's character this could have made for a wonderful plot twist also making a perfect tie in with the TNG series.They even could have Picard and shinzon joining up together(father and clone) to fight of Crosby when she is trying to destroy Picard and Earth.If they had gone along that path I think Nemesis could have been regarded as TNG's finest movie,but besides that it is still a fairly good movie despite it's heavy leanings towards TWOK.
The other two are the proverbial nails in the coffin of the franchise and I would even rate them lower than STV(although I must admit I am biased towards TOS)to me it has enough redeeming qualities to make it a decent and pleasant watching experience while with the other two TNG movies I will occasionally cringe.
The problem with the TNG movies is that in that era was the coming up of more big dumbed down action blockbuster movies with which trek had to compete with to earn back it's investments.Therefore the TNG movies are very unlike the series they spawned from,where we can conclude by stating that Roddenberry's original premise for TNG was a thing that turned out to be the TNG movies main disadvantage with the more cerebral,peaceful,and less action based premise that had to compete with violent,action and FX's driven shlock of those days.
So what we see with the TNG movies is a balancing act between the more TNG series like influence(for the Trekkies) and the heavy action,FX's filled shlock of the period(to draw in the non-Trekkies for balancing the books).In some movies they find that balance (FC,NEM) in the other two cases they don't where you can actually see the movie struggling to make up it's mind whether it will be more TNG like or more action like. -
Nexus71 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 09:38 PM)
I saw it in the theatre expecting it to be a great slightly more like the series movie after First Contact but was quite shocked and felt my heart sink when they began singing the HMS Pinafore stuff and thought oh boy!Plus to me it came off exactly how I described it previously that it was struggling to make up it's mind whether it is was going to be like a big budget episode or big action adventure.If you want to go with the TNG episode approach,fine! but do it with an intelligent TNG worthy script and with some good dialogue(Can't remeber watching a TNG movie and hoping for those wonderful eulogies from Picard)They could have done that,but throw in some very obvious continuity problems(mostly on the planet) and my movie experience was ruined.Combined with a race we should care for but we clearly don't because they come off as arrogant Amish who are selfish and obvious don't care enough about their own fate to even join the crew of Enterprise in fighting off the Son'a(an example of those Roddenberry premises that hurt the franchise).Of all the TNG movies that struggle to find the right balance Insurrection struggles the most.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 08:26 PM)
While I got you here, Nexy, I have a question. You seem to be a huge fan of South Park. Remember that episode where Kenny, and Gerald are getting high of cat urine, and they go off into that fantasy world with that hot chick with the huge knockers? Is there an uncensored version of that episode, like where you see her boobs, or no?
RIP Gene Wilder. One of the funniest people of all time. RIP Matt Roberts. You were great. -
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Nexus71 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 02:57 PM)
Maybe you should check the net or netflix try this;
http://www.southparkstudios-nl-q.mtvi.com/full-episodes/s12e03-major-boobage