Too Controlling Wife?
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CallMeSeverus — 19 years ago(April 30, 2006 09:00 AM)
Now, I haven't seen the movie in several years, so I could be wrong but we really don't know what type of conversations Jake and Kristy may have had on the subject of children. Did he ever actually say, "I never want to have kids."? Did they agree that the responsibility of birth-control would lie solely with Kristy? If a man doesn't want to have kids then he needs to get the vasectomy or wear protection or not have sex.
Yes, it's important for couples to discuss plans for children whether or not to have them, how they will be raised, etc. But we don't really know what their discussions were prior to their marriage.
Also, I think Kristy's anger was, in many ways, justified. He told Davis he and his "girlfriend" could stay when clearly Kristy was not up to having company especially company that they didn't know. I also think it had more to do with Jake's reaction to the girlfriend. The man couldn't take his eyes off her and was practically drooling as he stammered over his words. Yeah, I'd be a little upset, too. -
Kingvagabond — 19 years ago(April 30, 2006 02:38 PM)
Kristy deliberately got pregnant without including Jake in the decision - for that the least she should do is give him a break. As far as the man being forced to have a vasectomy - what are you 9? If you decided you didn't want to have kids would you want to be forced to have your womb ripped out?
Kristy was drooling over Davis' girlfriend and Jake should have included Kristy in his decision but they're hardly anywhere near being on the same scale.
As always I apologise for my poor grammar' speeling and use of RanDOm cAPitaLS -
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CallMeSeverus — 19 years ago(May 07, 2006 08:52 AM)
As far as the man being forced to have a vasectomy - what are you 9? If you decided you didn't want to have kids would you want to be forced to have your womb ripped out?
If I was absolutely sure I never ever wanted to have kids, then I would take the responsibility to make sure it never happened I would not leave it up to someone else. It used to be the girl couldn't trust the guy to "take care of it" or "I'll pull out in time" (excuse my crudeness) But really, girls are just as guilty of "I'm on the pill" or "don't worry, if something happens I'll take care of it (abortion)" or "I wouldn't expect you to be involved"
And no one is "forcing" anyone to get a vasectomy I had said:
If a man doesn't want to have kids then he needs to get the vasectomy or wear protection or not have sex.
There were three options there each with different pros and cons and each with a different level of preference.
and I'm sorry, "forced to have your womb ripped out"? Is that really a fair comparison to a vasectomy? What are you? 9? -
belldujour — 19 years ago(June 27, 2006 01:00 PM)
I think the reason she got so angry with Jake is that she was so shocked they were not on the same page vis a vis Davis' trashy girlfriend. If my husband's best friend brought a woman like that to my house, I would assume from the start that my husband would recommend some good hotels in the area, and would never dream that he would invite them to stay with us.
As far as the comments about Kristy intentionally trying to get pregnant without Jake's okay- I completely understand what some people are saying about it being underhanded. My only argument in her favor is that Jake never said he didn't want kids at all, only that he wasn't ready, wasn't ready, wasn't ready. My husband was like that until I forced the issue, too, and while he was on board with me and I never would have deceived him like that, I can understand her frustration to an extent. And now, he wouldn't change a thing, just like Jake at the end of the movie saying that what he was looking for wasn't something to be found, but something to be made. -
sullivanj5 — 19 years ago(September 17, 2006 11:52 PM)
Did you even watch the movie at all??? She did stop taking the pill BUT told him when she was having trouble getting pregnant. They both went to fertility specialist who said he had a low sperm count due to his underwear so he had to change to boxers. There's even a scene where he is hiding in the attic because he was tired of the "chore" of sex to get her pregnant since she was following the ovulation/temperature thing. She set up the pillows and gave him wine and said he could watch tv. Do you remember ANY of this, or you blocked out those scenes from your memory?
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Zando777 — 16 years ago(October 10, 2009 04:03 AM)
She stopped taking the pill without telling him he was under the impression she was taking the pill. Clearly an act of deception, and unacceptable.
When a guy is banging random broads, then yes, he needs to take proper precautions to avoid preganancy if he wants to avoid the possible consequences. (Or make sure the girl can't locate him.) But with his wife, he should be able to rely upon her honesty regarding her birth control practices.