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    frootos — 19 years ago(May 17, 2006 11:38 AM)

    She didn't deliberately get pregnant without including Jake. Actually, she didn't get pregnant for a while after that, not until after they both saw a fertility doctor, and were actively trying to get pregnant.

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        CallMeSeverus — 19 years ago(May 07, 2006 08:52 AM)

        As far as the man being forced to have a vasectomy - what are you 9? If you decided you didn't want to have kids would you want to be forced to have your womb ripped out?
        If I was absolutely sure I never ever wanted to have kids, then I would take the responsibility to make sure it never happened I would not leave it up to someone else. It used to be the girl couldn't trust the guy to "take care of it" or "I'll pull out in time" (excuse my crudeness) But really, girls are just as guilty of "I'm on the pill" or "don't worry, if something happens I'll take care of it (abortion)" or "I wouldn't expect you to be involved"
        And no one is "forcing" anyone to get a vasectomy I had said:
        If a man doesn't want to have kids then he needs to get the vasectomy or wear protection or not have sex.
        There were three options there each with different pros and cons and each with a different level of preference.
        and I'm sorry, "forced to have your womb ripped out"? Is that really a fair comparison to a vasectomy? What are you? 9?

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          belldujour — 19 years ago(June 27, 2006 01:00 PM)

          I think the reason she got so angry with Jake is that she was so shocked they were not on the same page vis a vis Davis' trashy girlfriend. If my husband's best friend brought a woman like that to my house, I would assume from the start that my husband would recommend some good hotels in the area, and would never dream that he would invite them to stay with us.
          As far as the comments about Kristy intentionally trying to get pregnant without Jake's okay- I completely understand what some people are saying about it being underhanded. My only argument in her favor is that Jake never said he didn't want kids at all, only that he wasn't ready, wasn't ready, wasn't ready. My husband was like that until I forced the issue, too, and while he was on board with me and I never would have deceived him like that, I can understand her frustration to an extent. And now, he wouldn't change a thing, just like Jake at the end of the movie saying that what he was looking for wasn't something to be found, but something to be made.

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            crystal_blu_3 — 19 years ago(August 16, 2006 02:10 PM)

            Kristi didn't do anything underhanded at all. Jake knew that she was trying to get pregnant, they went to a fertility doctor for Christ's sake!

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                  sullivanj5 — 19 years ago(September 17, 2006 11:52 PM)

                  Did you even watch the movie at all??? She did stop taking the pill BUT told him when she was having trouble getting pregnant. They both went to fertility specialist who said he had a low sperm count due to his underwear so he had to change to boxers. There's even a scene where he is hiding in the attic because he was tired of the "chore" of sex to get her pregnant since she was following the ovulation/temperature thing. She set up the pillows and gave him wine and said he could watch tv. Do you remember ANY of this, or you blocked out those scenes from your memory?

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                      Zando777 — 16 years ago(October 10, 2009 04:03 AM)

                      She stopped taking the pill without telling him he was under the impression she was taking the pill. Clearly an act of deception, and unacceptable.
                      When a guy is banging random broads, then yes, he needs to take proper precautions to avoid preganancy if he wants to avoid the possible consequences. (Or make sure the girl can't locate him.) But with his wife, he should be able to rely upon her honesty regarding her birth control practices.

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                          erikdi01 — 19 years ago(July 26, 2006 05:43 AM)

                          Can you BE anymore retarded? I love how you put all the blame on the woman. If you had the ability to get pregnant and go through the pains of labor, you wouldn't be singing the same tune. Grow up

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                            tmdlw — 19 years ago(July 29, 2006 09:16 PM)

                            uh, i think the movie is called, "she's having a baby, not "damn, she tricked me into having a baby". can't anybody just watch a movie without over-analyzing? sheesh!

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                                raven872 — 19 years ago(October 20, 2006 02:00 AM)

                                Hmmm- Lemme guess Deadbeat dad?
                                Your bitterness is very telling.

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                                    tmdlw — 19 years ago(October 23, 2006 09:57 PM)

                                    What deception? What fraud? They were married before they got pregnant, right?Did they have a conversation where they agreed not to have children? Are we talking about the same movie?!

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                                      savageddreams — 19 years ago(November 23, 2006 01:21 PM)

                                      Yeah, seriously. A lot of people on here seem to have issues with the opposite sex. I wish people would just understand. Men are not evil. Women are not evil. PEOPLE are evil. Okay, not evil. Sometimes selfish, frustrated, and careless, not necessarily evil. People do and say things all the time that are deceitful, it's human nature. Men don't do it more than women, and vice versa. If you disagree, see a therapist. Simple as that.
                                      As far as the original topic, I know that when I tell a friend or my siblings about an argument I had with my spouse, I can't tell them what precisely happened. If I'm upset, I'll subconsciously make myself sound like the good person, even if it was (mostly or all) my fault. HUMAN NATURE. Anyway. I'm lucky to have a spouse with similar views, and if we were confronted with a friend who brought over an extremely disagreeable partner we would probably tell them where the nearest motel is.
                                      Dr. Cox: Newsflash, you can't drink and then come to work. You're not airline pilots.

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                                        queenhelly — 19 years ago(February 24, 2007 11:40 PM)

                                        Getting back to the original question, she blew her stack when he suggested Davis and his girlfriend stay over without first discussing it with Kristy. Then she has the nerve to tell him to promise not to get mad when she tells him she hasn't been taking the pill for 3 months. The point isn't whether or not he wants kids, it's about her doing something without consulting him that effects them both. She was furious about Davis staying over without her input, yet it's ok for her to work for 3 months on having a permanent resident in the house without at least letting her husband in on the plans ? Look at it this way, Jake wants to be a writer, would she have been cool with it if he said "hey honey, I quit my job 3 months ago, I've been working on a book every day when you thought I was working don't be mad"
                                        Anyway who cares, all I know is Alec Baldwin was such a hottie 20 years and 50 pounds ago !

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                                          erinker74 — 19 years ago(April 04, 2007 09:48 AM)

                                          We should definitely disregard the entire movie, then 😉

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