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byubarbie2002 — 18 years ago(February 05, 2008 02:54 AM)
IMO, any movie loses credibility when they try to pull that off as a 'twist'. It seems to be a staple in action movies now though.
I still love this movie regardlessit shows what a sequel should be.
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ravi02 — 18 years ago(February 05, 2008 10:56 PM)
I love LW2 as well, but I agree with the original poster that Vorstedt's connection to Riggs is rather contrived.
I find it hard to swallow that these villains, that Riggs and Murtaugh come across over the course of the film, just happened to also have killed his wife. I mean come on don't we already hate these guys enough already; they're racist pricks, cop killers and murder Riggs's new girlfriend. By having somebody responsible for his wife's death and then having Riggs beat him, sort of cheapens Rigg's character arc in the original film. -
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ShadySovereign — 17 years ago(July 22, 2008 05:11 PM)
I found the fact that Vorstedt killed Riggs' wife to be a good thing, because it intensified Riggs' hatred of the bad guys even more than usual
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theonlymovieking — 17 years ago(August 20, 2008 12:04 AM)
i liked how they started playing it but it was sorta all out of nowherei didn't like it too much but it was a great movie! i also never understood why riggs dropped off his love interest after they were getting shot atgood time to drive to the police station
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JoeyBagOfDonuts — 17 years ago(August 20, 2008 01:24 AM)
Well, I think that by having Derrick's character reveal to Riggs that HE killed his wife, and HE killed Rika (directly or indirectly), he is just rubbing it (Riggs "bad luck") in his face. Vorstedt clearly got off on the fact that he was able to HURT Riggs, despite the fact that the mission during the first hit was to KILL Riggs. Vorstedt is clearly sadistic. He doesn't just seem to view his working for Arjen as a job - he actually seems to enjoy it. And that's what makes a bad guy truly bad.
The other reason I didn't have a issue with Vorstedt revealing this information, is that it gave Riggs an opportunity for closure. He finally found out what happened to Victoria, and why. And that knowledge allowed him to maybe not come to peace, but at least to be able to deal with her death (murder) now. And the fact that he was able to punish the person who took her from him most likely felt pretty good. I'm not advocating revenge, but you can't argue that sometimes it IS sweet. -
Lunchbox-3 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 12:11 PM)
So you're saying that if his wife had merely died in an accident and no one was to blame, Riggs would never achieve closure? She had to be murdered by someone and Riggs had to take revenge on that murderer for closure to happen? That kind of sucks then for all the rest of the people who lose their loved ones to accidental circumstances.
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JoeyBagOfDonuts — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 02:18 PM)
Are we talking real life or the movies?
Things never really have closure in real life You often just accept things as 'he works in mysterious ways'.
In the movies it helps the audience to identify with and get behind the hero.
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grbettencourt — 17 years ago(September 13, 2008 08:09 PM)
They let on early that Vorstedt knew Riggs from before, that had to lead somewhere, and Vorstedt being Rudd's right-hand-man and main killer and all the misery he cause Riggs gave him an excellent reason for the way in which he killed him.
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Howlin Wolf — 17 years ago(September 16, 2008 08:48 AM)
I don't care how out of left field it might be, so long as it's written and performed well - and it is! Come on; you lose the sheer coldbloodedness of Vorstedt (best villain of the series ) if you take that out! I actually believed that the character was evil when I heard how perfectly lines such as:
"She didn't die straight away - took a bit of time "
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"You don't have much luck with women, do you, Riggs?!"
were delivered. If Riggs were real and I'd have been in his position then that would have sent me nuts, too. Plus, it shows continuity between series entries, and I like that.
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col547 — 13 years ago(September 24, 2012 12:05 PM)
I agree with OP it slightly ruins a great film.It was better off as if Riggs' wife had just died in a car accident and just have Riggs pissed off at the fact that they'd killed Rica.
There was really no point to it.He'd still lost two women he loved either way,so his actions at the end would still be justified.Not to mention afterwards he finds out about his friends been killed as well.
A pointless plot contrivance.But I can ignore it because the film's just too damn good.