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ShadySovereign — 17 years ago(July 22, 2008 05:11 PM)
I found the fact that Vorstedt killed Riggs' wife to be a good thing, because it intensified Riggs' hatred of the bad guys even more than usual
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theonlymovieking — 17 years ago(August 20, 2008 12:04 AM)
i liked how they started playing it but it was sorta all out of nowherei didn't like it too much but it was a great movie! i also never understood why riggs dropped off his love interest after they were getting shot atgood time to drive to the police station
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JoeyBagOfDonuts — 17 years ago(August 20, 2008 01:24 AM)
Well, I think that by having Derrick's character reveal to Riggs that HE killed his wife, and HE killed Rika (directly or indirectly), he is just rubbing it (Riggs "bad luck") in his face. Vorstedt clearly got off on the fact that he was able to HURT Riggs, despite the fact that the mission during the first hit was to KILL Riggs. Vorstedt is clearly sadistic. He doesn't just seem to view his working for Arjen as a job - he actually seems to enjoy it. And that's what makes a bad guy truly bad.
The other reason I didn't have a issue with Vorstedt revealing this information, is that it gave Riggs an opportunity for closure. He finally found out what happened to Victoria, and why. And that knowledge allowed him to maybe not come to peace, but at least to be able to deal with her death (murder) now. And the fact that he was able to punish the person who took her from him most likely felt pretty good. I'm not advocating revenge, but you can't argue that sometimes it IS sweet. -
Lunchbox-3 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 12:11 PM)
So you're saying that if his wife had merely died in an accident and no one was to blame, Riggs would never achieve closure? She had to be murdered by someone and Riggs had to take revenge on that murderer for closure to happen? That kind of sucks then for all the rest of the people who lose their loved ones to accidental circumstances.
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JoeyBagOfDonuts — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 02:18 PM)
Are we talking real life or the movies?
Things never really have closure in real life You often just accept things as 'he works in mysterious ways'.
In the movies it helps the audience to identify with and get behind the hero.
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grbettencourt — 17 years ago(September 13, 2008 08:09 PM)
They let on early that Vorstedt knew Riggs from before, that had to lead somewhere, and Vorstedt being Rudd's right-hand-man and main killer and all the misery he cause Riggs gave him an excellent reason for the way in which he killed him.
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Howlin Wolf — 17 years ago(September 16, 2008 08:48 AM)
I don't care how out of left field it might be, so long as it's written and performed well - and it is! Come on; you lose the sheer coldbloodedness of Vorstedt (best villain of the series ) if you take that out! I actually believed that the character was evil when I heard how perfectly lines such as:
"She didn't die straight away - took a bit of time "
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"You don't have much luck with women, do you, Riggs?!"
were delivered. If Riggs were real and I'd have been in his position then that would have sent me nuts, too. Plus, it shows continuity between series entries, and I like that.
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col547 — 13 years ago(September 24, 2012 12:05 PM)
I agree with OP it slightly ruins a great film.It was better off as if Riggs' wife had just died in a car accident and just have Riggs pissed off at the fact that they'd killed Rica.
There was really no point to it.He'd still lost two women he loved either way,so his actions at the end would still be justified.Not to mention afterwards he finds out about his friends been killed as well.
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ThingyBlahBlah3 — 13 years ago(October 25, 2012 06:39 PM)
I think it would have been fun to find out later that Vorstedt actually had nothing to do with Riggs' wife, and that he only said all that stuff to mess with Riggs' head before killing him.
Although it's probably bad writing, I'm not too bothered by it, mainly because LW2 would still be a wild mess of a movie even without Vorstedt's revelation. Entertaining, surely, but still a wild mess.
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ScottBBT — 13 years ago(January 16, 2013 08:57 AM)
I have to agree with the OP. I think that twist was not needed at all, not because its unrealistic (I can handle unrealistic in an 80s action movie) but because its really not necessary. As the other poster said, Riggs became a lethal weapon the moment he saw Rikas body underwater. That, combined with the fact that all of his friends on the police department had been murdered, gave him all the impetus he needed to become the eponymous crazy man we knew from the original film.
If anything, that twist would have made more sense in Lethal Weapon 3 or 4, because hes not remotely a lethal weapon in those movies, and it would have given him a reason to be. -
RParmly-3 — 13 years ago(January 16, 2013 03:33 PM)
If anything, that twist would have made more sense in Lethal Weapon 3 or 4, because hes not remotely a lethal weapon in those movies, and it would have given him a reason to be.
There was a suggestion over on the Lethal Weapon 3 boards some time ago that the "I killed Riggs' wife" twist should have been saved for that movie. It would've made the guy in that movie more menacing and nasty (the racism and killing Rika was plenty enough for the South Africans). I think it would've been a great idea, personally.
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Verdugo85 — 12 years ago(July 10, 2013 09:30 AM)
Well..it didnt really bother me but the idea of Vorstedt killing Riggs wife was a way to put Riggs dilemma at rest and move on with his life with Murtaugh and his family.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(July 12, 2013 07:37 PM)
I agree, but it didn't rub me the wrong way as much as Spiderman 3. We practically saw the guy kill Pete's Uncle for God's sake. Then they change it in the last movie? Weak.
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