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otness_e — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 04:52 PM)
YOUR opinion, otness, YOUR opinion. When will this finally get through your thick skull? At least it's evidence of appreciation, unlike your stretched conclusion.
Nope, not my opinion. I even managed to cite sources specifically to prove it's not my opinion. Like for example, this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTYELrS-lcI&feature=youtu.be And bear in mind, these were guys actually affiliated with Hollywood and knew the ins and outs of Hollywood, so they definitely would know what they are talking about even if I didn't.
I mentioned your name, just like you did several times to other posters, but I didn't address one single thing you said. So no reason to respond to me.
Yeah, actually, you did address a thing I said. Specifically, that I agreed with Eko's statements, and you even implied your primary motivation for responding was simply because I agreed with Eko. I'll even quote you from your post: "Seeing how otness responded to you about how right you are, let me just give my two cents."
Quit spreading your damn lies. I've never acted like my opinion of BatB is fact. And I've pointed out flaws myself multiple times. How about you stop demonizing people who state the flaws in TLM or the people who like BatB? Or atheists, or feminists or gays or college professors, etc, etc. Just STAHP!
First of all, I avoid lying. And for the record, you HAVE in fact acted like your opinion of BatB IS fact, repeatedly, every time I or anyone else like Anonymous Fox or even people like furienna or jname967, or eko, or kentry-28530 tried to point out a flaw in the film, you jump right down our throats, even when, in my case, I made sure to go into full detail of the scene specifically to prove that, yes, I have indeed watched it, or how furienna is a self-confessed Belle fan. I've also seen your argument on that BATB is the best thread with Anonymous Fox, and you even said at one point that your opinion IS fact.
Second of all, I try to make SURE I avoid demonizing people who state flaws in TLM unless it's the kinds of people who, you know, got quite a few things wrong about the film. In fact, when people criticize Ariel for being impulsive and reckless, guess what? I actually AGREE with them. And considering that people like Taran_Wanderer are the types who actually DO bash Ariel relentlessly while propping up Belle as a goddess, I see absolutely no reason why I shouldn't respond to them and set them straight by pointing out Belle's flaws. And I also don't ignore Ariel's flaws, or even those of the film.
Third of all, those bits about atheists, feminists, gays, and college professors are directly relevant to the argument, especially feminism since even the creators of BATB made VERY clear they were trying to push feminism, so no, I will not stop, not when they actually ARE relevant in any way, shape or form, especially given how Disney's been turned into a leftist cesspool since the 1990s. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 05:08 PM)
Nope, not my opinion.
So your opinion and somebody else's opinion. It's still an OPINION. Apparently one that many other people don't share. I just can't understand how someone can't comprehend something so simple!
Yeah, actually, you did address a thing I said. Specifically, that I agreed with Eko's statements.
I did not address one thing YOU said. I simply observed that your post was in agreement with the other poster.
First of all, I avoid lying. And for the record, you HAVE in fact acted like your opinion of BatB IS fact, repeatedly, every time I tried to point out a flaw in the film, you jump right down my throat, even when I made sure to go into full detail of the scene specifically to prove that, yes, I have indeed watched it.
Lies, lies, lies. I do not jump down your throat and voicing my disagreement with you is NOT stating opinion as fact. I've also pointed out your misconceptions of the movie and real life by providing evidence, which is not about opinion but about FACT. I have NEVER EVER told you you are wrong for disliking the movie.
I've also seen your argument on that BATB is the best thread with Anonymous Fox, and you even said at one point that your opinion IS fact.
Clearly you do not understand sarcasm.
Third of all, those bits about atheists, feminists, gays, and college professors are directly relevant to the argument
No, they are not. Accusing me of supporting Stalin's actions has nothing to do with the movie. -
otness_e — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 09:35 AM)
So your opinion and somebody else's opinion. It's still an OPINION. Apparently one that many other people don't share. I just can't understand how someone can't comprehend something so simple!
Because it's NOT that simple. What, just because people voted Barack Obama back into office, that means he's a great guy? In case you haven't noticed, he turned America into a laughing stock with his left-wing actions.
I did not address one thing YOU said. I simply observed that your post was in agreement with the other poster.
Yeah, and when you made that observation, you also basically said you responded to that poster because I agreed with them. And it's not the first time you said something like this to that other poster either.
Lies, lies, lies. I do not jump down your throat and voicing my disagreement with you is NOT stating opinion as fact. I've also pointed out your misconceptions of the movie and real life by providing evidence, which is not about opinion but about FACT. I have NEVER EVER told you you are wrong for disliking the movie.
And what I was stating about the film WAS fact. Do you really think I would have given those scenes in full detail if I was not making sure I was factual in my statements? And I also made sure to read up on a LOT of historical details, including the French Revolution, Reign of Terror, Communism, and a lot of dank elements in history, even those considered by our left-wing academics to be good, so no, I DO know what happened in real life that AREN'T misconceptions at all (last I checked, history IS real life). And I've seen you do exactly the same things even to people who called you out on your behavior, and one of whom was a self-confessed Belle fan.
Clearly you do not understand sarcasm.
Oh, I understand sarcasm when it's face to face (and even then, only if there's a certain intonation to the words, eg, saying sorry as "Saw-ree!"), but in text-based sources such as this, I doubt ANYONE can understand sarcasm unless there's tags making clear it's sarcasm.
No, they are not. Accusing me of supporting Stalin's actions has nothing to do with the movie.
Neither was your bringing up that you were an atheist when talking about the enchantress, if we are to go by your views. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 10:44 AM)
What, just because people voted Barack Obama back into office, that means he's a great guy?
Apparently they thought he was a great guy when they voted for him. Whether Obama is actually a great guy or not is totally subjective.
Yeah, and when you made that observation, you also basically said you responded to that poster because I agreed with them. And it's not the first time you said something like this to that other poster either.
When the hell did I bring you up to that other poster? And no, I didn't respond because you agreed with the other poster. But since you already responded it was fair game for me to also respond. I was just pointing out that you shouldn't accuse me of jumping on people.
And what I was stating about the film WAS fact.
No, it's not fact, that's the problem, I point out when you're wrong or when you have misconceptions about the movie or real life. Again, please show me the original French text that says that Belle was a blonde.
And I've seen you do exactly the same things even to people who called you out on your behavior, and one of whom was a self-confessed Belle fan.
YOU brought up their name out of nowhere, so YOU are to blame. I had no idea what they said, but if they said the same as you, then they misunderstood things just as much as you. They just started crying because I happened to disagree with them, just like you.
Oh, I understand sarcasm
Clearly you do not. Foxboy was the only one who needed to understand and I'm pretty sure he did.
Neither was your bringing up that you were an atheist when talking about the enchantress, if we are to go by your views.
Uhm no, dumbass. I was just answering a question another poster asked me, not trying to make a point about the movie. Not the same at all.
You really need to quit with these strawman arguments about how I supposedly attack people and just address the issues directly. It really just shows you don't have a leg to stand on. -
BelleStar82 — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 11:10 AM)
I prefer Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast more than Lion King. Music, color palettes, story, characters to me are superior. I would actually include Aladdin too. Just gorgeous and it's hard to top the Genie character. Circle of Life is obviously epic, but song for song the others are better.
Beauty takes on a dimension that goes beyond a kid's film. Belle has depth to her. Beast is the first to go from the villain to the good guy. Sure Gaston is the designated villain to add an action element, but the real obstacle in the story is Beast's character transforming and gaining Belle's love. The love story is put first and the fight in the last act is second to that. -
!!!deleted!!! (67467984) — 9 years ago(June 03, 2016 02:57 AM)
Lion King is better by a country mile. I think the this was a more piece of film, but it didn't make a difference in the end.The whole intro t is really the only reason I still own a DVD of this movie, but there are plenty of TLK moments I still pop into rotation from time to time. The soundtrack was much more diverse, as well.
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Spyro Bandicoot Elsa Anna Olaf — 6 years ago(July 03, 2019 07:40 PM)
The Lion King is a great movie but I still put The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast over both. While TLK has some advantages over BATB and TLM which are Scar over Ursula and Gaston and the soundtrack I still think they’re both better movies. As much as I love Timon and Pumbaa I find it hard to rate above or beneath Scuttle and Sebastian (I don’t like Flounder quite as much) Or Lumiere And Cogsworth. To me BATB’s soundtrack is good but not great or my favorite and I like TLM soundtrack
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Spyro Bandicoot Elsa Anna Olaf — 6 years ago(November 06, 2019 08:11 PM)
For me personally having rewatched The Lion King during my tween and teenage years and don’t get me wrong I still love the movie I feel I’ve grown somewhat objective towards it. I hadn’t seen BATB or LM since I was really little and rewatched them during my young adult days so maybe that’s why I’m a little less objective towards them. But LK is still a classic.
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TutuAnimationPrincess — 5 years ago(September 12, 2020 01:05 AM)
I have to say, this topic is quite the nostalgia trip. Not only seeing my own vigorous praise of TLM but the old rivalry between otness and Stratego was quite entertaining.
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