Pretty bad movie
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otness_e — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 01:55 PM)
Yeah, well, Black Cauldron didn't get Disney out of its slump while The Little Mermaid did (well, TLM and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, though I'm not sure whether to count the latter since it seemed to be a joint project with Warner Bros due to its use of Looney Toons characters as well as Disney characters.). I'm just stating the facts, and besides, at least it had a better story and moral than Beauty and the Beast, you have to admit that much.
Granted, Black Cauldron could have done far better than it did (not necessarily being a smash hit, though) if Jeffrey Katzenberg didn't end up cutting literally ten minutes of animation out and then some, but nevertheless -
TutuAnimationPrincess — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 02:29 PM)
Hi there, as always, I love your passionate defenses of The Little Mermaid. But I do have a few things to respond to in your post here.
Point one, the above user is probably just a troll or a rabid member of the Lion Pack. Either way, not worth responding to.
Point two and I've brought this up before can you leave Beauty and the Beast out of these conversations? At the very least, don't worry about it unless someone else brings it up.
Last point, Disney attempting to adapt the Prydain Chronicles was always a bad idea that no amount of lost footage could fix.
"Unless you're an alien, time traveler, or esper, your opinion doesn't matter." -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 11:25 AM)
Point two and I've brought this up before can you leave Beauty and the Beast out of these conversations? At the very least, don't worry about it unless someone else brings it up.
Right, sorry. But I wasn't sure how else to tell them to stop slagging on The Little Mermaid anyways.
Last point, Disney attempting to adapt the Prydain Chronicles was always a bad idea that no amount of lost footage could fix.
Right, probably wasn't, but it at least would have done a bit better than becoming an outright bomb if they didn't cut out a lot of footage. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 03:35 PM)
I'm just stating the facts, and besides, at least it had a better story and moral than Beauty and the Beast, you have to admit that much.
He doesn't HAVE to do anything. What is this bizarre obsession of yours that everyone should agree with your view of the world? And like the other poster said, leave BatB out of it. -
Durham_christine — 10 years ago(March 30, 2016 01:50 AM)
Agreed, I'm tired of reading his Beauty and the Beast bashings. I've read them in other posts too.
I love both these movies. No need to bag one to prove the others good. They're both timeless classics -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 11:21 AM)
Multiple feminist/left-wing professors, actually: one female (and I uploaded the recordings of her. I didn't specifically have you in mind so much as a future blog post on DisneyWiki, but I'm MORE than willing to show you the lecture tapes if it at least gets you to understand: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e02pmeur6q4yb/World_History_up_to_the_1500s The more incriminating one is I think around the time of March. I definitely know it was around the time of the mid-point of the semester.), several male. And actually, not even that, there was also what various sources on Wikipedia revealed from interviews and covering development regarding Beauty and the Beast and the agenda they pushed.
Don't believe me? Just read up on all these links, all of which were actually used as source material for Wikipedia:
*http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-22/features/2825583_1_beast-s-castle-fairy-tale-madame-gabrielle;
*http://time.com/2798136/maleficent-beauty-beast-writer/; *http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-01-25/lifestyle/9201241028_1_linda-woolverton-belle-show-scripts;
*http://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle;
*http://girlsincapes.com/2014/04/07/princess-evolution/; *https://web.archive.org/web/20111009063303/http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/1991/11/17/just-the-way-walt-made-em.html;
*http://www.urj.ucf.edu/vol5issue2/dickens/essay.php; -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 05:04 PM)
You were talking ABOUT me, so I have more than a right to respond to that.
Also, the French analogy does not work because while there are some bad apples in French society, there have also been some good ones, while with Feminism today, they are mostly bad apples, and the only good ones are in the by now nearly forgotten Susan B. Anthony brand. And besides, the stuff I cited came from Woolverton and/or Katzenberg's mouth. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 08:31 PM)
No, you don't have the right as you not being able to shut up is the whole problem.
The French analogy makes acually more sense because the characters are established as French, while no character in the movie is established as being the supposedly radical, men-hating feminist professor from your college.
NOW SHUT THE HELL UP!!! -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 11:23 AM)
You know, once upon a time, I actually did hold Beauty and the Beast up in high regard. But unfortunately, things happened, and if anything, I HATE the fact that I have to cite all the bad things that happened in that film, but unfortunately, I have to.
Also, I suggest you say the same thing to the likes of Taran Wanderer 2, since he basically makes it utterly obvious that he hates The Little Mermaid and Ariel especially. -
Durham_christine — 10 years ago(April 01, 2016 01:31 AM)
Hey you want to bag Beauty and the Beast? Go there and do it. This is the Little Mermaid board, not the anti B&tB board.
I think I speak for most people here by saying we are getting pretty tired of you turning EVERY topic you post into an essay what you think's wrong with B&tB. Ok we get it, you don't like it. Can you post something new for once? -
otness_e — 10 years ago(April 01, 2016 07:27 AM)
It's mainly as a response to dealing with particular fans who bag TLM in favor of either the original tale or well, you know. One of the more notorious examples was with this guy named Taran Wanderer 2, as he frequently bags TLM and does not offer any criticism of any kind to BATB, and even lies about Ariel's character, not to mention frequently ignores similar events that are arguably far worse than okay I'll stop. I get irritated at that.
I don't need to bag any other films just to prop up TLM. But I do think I have to make it a point to counter anyone who DOES bag TLM for BATB.