George Marlow
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lucretia_flame — 19 years ago(November 13, 2006 05:44 PM)
I agree with you, Cookiela2001.
Unlike many mystery dramas, criminals don't give up the ghost just like that. If the alternative is life, it's only realistic that the criminal will give it all he's got and keep lying.
Marlow probably thought he could charm his way out
I remember that scene when Moyra has asked the male officers to leave the room then she breaks down in front of Jane. That scene really struck me even though it was so short. I felt really saddened by it. -
kit savage — 19 years ago(November 14, 2006 04:10 PM)
After watching all the PS's I have to say George Marlow is the best of all the villians in the whole series. After watching 'Final Chapter' I went back and watched my old video of the first PS, and George Marlow wins hand down as the most charming serial killer of them all.
The couple of my favorite scenes:
When he is visiting his Mum and takes her out to the pier, where he gets her to sing along with him as he pushes her around in her wheelchair, and the camera view that draws back from the scene, showing the coldness of the low tide and the birds eye view of them.
And when he needs to get Moyra on the good side, him telling the story about his Mum loosing her wig at the prep school, in front of his classmates, and how they laughed- and how he confesses that until then he didn't know it was a wig she was wearing, and how even now she says she says she needs a 'shampoo and a trim'.
George Marlow gets my vote for the best villan. When they break into his "lock-up" and see the blood on the wall where he tortured his victems, it is a chilling moment.
CSI and all their CGI effects can never replace the solid acting and writing that Prime Suspect achieves.
Lock-up = garage
chips= french fries
loo/wc = bathroom
'Guv' = boss
mobile= cell phone
holiday= vacation
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attagrrrl — 19 years ago(February 15, 2007 06:08 PM)
I thought the ending of PS1 was weird. Hadn't Marlowe already confessed? Why would he plead guilty? Maybe he was hoping that for a copycat killer scenario that would eventually free him? Seems like a longshot, but I guess he didn't have much to lose by pleading not guilty.
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jonnyuk — 19 years ago(March 13, 2007 03:45 PM)
I always thought it was Moyra, on just watching this. I thought she managed to frame him in the end, and that he just gave up defending himself and said that he did it in the room, and went on to plead not guilty in court because he wanted to tell the truth in that arena, as opposed to in the office where they were being all accusative.
Tho I have just realised that one of the only other Prime Suspects I have seen is number 4 in which we find out he was the killer all along. I didn't realise that it was referring to the case of Prime Suspect 1, but I see now that it wasanyway, first one that I've seen on my new box set, got 2, 3, the other parts of 4, 5 and 6 left to go! -
jameskitchen_999 — 18 years ago(July 23, 2007 02:07 PM)
without a doubt the first ps was the best although i dont understand why tenninson needed a confession considering the overwhemling evidence but i suppose it made it watertight and better tv viewing. i personally think he didnt plead guilty because of his mother been there and not wanting to put her through it.
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gobears87 — 15 years ago(July 01, 2010 04:15 AM)
With all the forensic evidence in the garage, plus Moyra's statements, they wouldn't need a confession from Marlow. But having the confession kind of puts a bow on things. Plus having a confession on tape makes things easier for the dumber jurors who might be "confused" by the physical evidence.
Marlow probably pleaded "not guilty" because . why not? He's got nothing to lose by going to trial. He may have figured he could charm his way out past a jury conviction. The authorities were not going to offer him anything in exchange for pleading guilty and saving the cost of a trial. -
Andr8 — 18 years ago(February 23, 2008 02:11 PM)
I had thought it would end up being Ralph Fiennes's character. He looked alot like a young Marlow (especially his profile) and if you took a composite sketch of the two people in the line up (Marlow and the young man) that the witness pointed out, it would look exactly like Ralph Fiennes.
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canuckteach — 13 years ago(November 12, 2012 07:42 PM)
Yes, we wondered if it was Moira, the common-law wife - as she was a hardened person, with a dodgy background. but all the facts about the murders didn't fit her (i.e. there was fluid found on the first victim we encountered - that was how the police got onto George Marlow in the first place; the strength required to overpower the girls, etc.) - Moira certainly had her head in the sand, however. great performances all around, eh? we streamed this from Acornonline.com, which has several great Brit mystery series. low annual membership fee gets you access to all of them., or you can order the DVD sets.
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Chaosmetal69 — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 07:20 PM)
Sorry for the late reply,
It messed me up too, but he only changed it after because he was a psychopathic sociopathic serial killer who believed he could talk himself out of it. It was a scene designed to anger you in that he still believed he could prove innocence -
craya62 — 18 years ago(October 20, 2007 10:20 AM)
YES!!! I love that stormy, windy pier scene the besthe sings his Mum's favorite song with the line: "Always the bridesmaid, never the blushing bride.". Glad I found someone who knows what I'm talking about. I've been looking for the scene on youtube for awhile. This is next best thing.
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bluestocking-7 — 15 years ago(June 12, 2010 03:53 PM)
kit savage
posted:
Lock-up = garage
chips= french fries
loo/wc = bathroom
'Guv' = boss
mobile= cell phone
holiday= vacation
Oh the wonderful varience in the english language!!
I don't think that lock-up is necessarily a garage - more like a rented storage space. When Marlow protested the search for the keys he said "I haven't got a lockup and I haven't got a garage. If I had, maybe my car wouldn't have been nicked."
Also from this episode:
petrol = gas
bed-sitter/bed-sit = one-room apartment
starters = appetizers
knickers = panties
crisps = potato chips
whip-round = to pass the hat/collecting money to purchase something for someone
cock-up = mess
doss down = to have a shut-eye
dosser = down-and-outer
knackered = very tired
nicked = stolen
sussed = figured out
load of wallies = stupid persons
nutter = nutcase
spot (of trouble) = bit
no ruddy idea = mild swear word
(in and out of) nick = police station
I think "diary" is used in this episode to refer to a little notebook to jot down a schedule/appointments/what to do - and not as the personal secret journal of done things. I wonder if that's common English usage.
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marcia_lou — 13 years ago(February 21, 2013 04:53 PM)
George Marlowe was such a "good" villain, that until Moyra's admission of his kinky sexual preferences I was sure that someone else would soon replace him as the prime suspect. There was nothing about his character that prepared me for his being a serial killer who tortured his victims. Yes, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence and the prior conviction but I still can't believe that a man who sings old songs with his mother can be that depraved.
Of course he is guilty within the framework of the show. Presumably they will have a enough forensic evidence to convict.
Marcia
OK, now that I've already posted I realize there's a 2nd and 3rd page with this idea already discussed. There are good points on both sides but I still maintain that from I literary point of view, the viewer needs to be more prepared for his guilt, at least in retrospect. He needs to show some weakness that makes you say, "Oh yeah, I should have seen that coming." -
Thorsten-Krings — 16 years ago(November 26, 2009 01:26 AM)
Lynda LaPlante took up the basic principle, i.e. the insecurity of evidence which you face in any investigation and turned it into Trial and Retribution. I think it's one of the best things aboiut her writing that she shows the difficulty in focussing on one lione of enquiry and the danger it brings and then brutally showing us that looked at from a different angle things might actually be quite different.
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Writ_in_Water — 15 years ago(February 07, 2011 08:17 PM)
Marlow pled "not guilty" because his mother was in the courtroom. He couldn't confess to those crimes in front of her. His whole life is built around protecting her from reality.
His mother is his Achilles' heel, and the key to his character. Talking about her is how Tennison gets him to crack. Marlow tells his girlfriend, "Underneath all that glamour, she wasugly." He hates beautiful women for having what his mother couldn't have. Killing them is (in some twisted way) his way of getting justice for her. -
film_ophile — 15 years ago(February 10, 2011 01:04 AM)
writ, gee that's brilliant. i don't think that ever would have dawned on me- your last sentence, above. We just saw this tonight for the first time.gasp!
I must say, the only thing that didn't work for me was his character. maybe i'm really uninformed but it seemed to me TV-unrealistic that a very sadistic serial killer would show NO sign of mental illness. And , while i am not in favor of 'reader's digest' treatment of audiences(i.e. writing to the education level of a 12 yr. old)it would have made much more sense to me if they had shown him glancing at his mom before saying 'not guilty.'
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