George Marlow
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jameskitchen_999 — 18 years ago(July 23, 2007 02:07 PM)
without a doubt the first ps was the best although i dont understand why tenninson needed a confession considering the overwhemling evidence but i suppose it made it watertight and better tv viewing. i personally think he didnt plead guilty because of his mother been there and not wanting to put her through it.
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gobears87 — 15 years ago(July 01, 2010 04:15 AM)
With all the forensic evidence in the garage, plus Moyra's statements, they wouldn't need a confession from Marlow. But having the confession kind of puts a bow on things. Plus having a confession on tape makes things easier for the dumber jurors who might be "confused" by the physical evidence.
Marlow probably pleaded "not guilty" because . why not? He's got nothing to lose by going to trial. He may have figured he could charm his way out past a jury conviction. The authorities were not going to offer him anything in exchange for pleading guilty and saving the cost of a trial. -
Andr8 — 18 years ago(February 23, 2008 02:11 PM)
I had thought it would end up being Ralph Fiennes's character. He looked alot like a young Marlow (especially his profile) and if you took a composite sketch of the two people in the line up (Marlow and the young man) that the witness pointed out, it would look exactly like Ralph Fiennes.
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canuckteach — 13 years ago(November 12, 2012 07:42 PM)
Yes, we wondered if it was Moira, the common-law wife - as she was a hardened person, with a dodgy background. but all the facts about the murders didn't fit her (i.e. there was fluid found on the first victim we encountered - that was how the police got onto George Marlow in the first place; the strength required to overpower the girls, etc.) - Moira certainly had her head in the sand, however. great performances all around, eh? we streamed this from Acornonline.com, which has several great Brit mystery series. low annual membership fee gets you access to all of them., or you can order the DVD sets.
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Chaosmetal69 — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 07:20 PM)
Sorry for the late reply,
It messed me up too, but he only changed it after because he was a psychopathic sociopathic serial killer who believed he could talk himself out of it. It was a scene designed to anger you in that he still believed he could prove innocence -
craya62 — 18 years ago(October 20, 2007 10:20 AM)
YES!!! I love that stormy, windy pier scene the besthe sings his Mum's favorite song with the line: "Always the bridesmaid, never the blushing bride.". Glad I found someone who knows what I'm talking about. I've been looking for the scene on youtube for awhile. This is next best thing.
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bluestocking-7 — 15 years ago(June 12, 2010 03:53 PM)
kit savage
posted:
Lock-up = garage
chips= french fries
loo/wc = bathroom
'Guv' = boss
mobile= cell phone
holiday= vacation
Oh the wonderful varience in the english language!!
I don't think that lock-up is necessarily a garage - more like a rented storage space. When Marlow protested the search for the keys he said "I haven't got a lockup and I haven't got a garage. If I had, maybe my car wouldn't have been nicked."
Also from this episode:
petrol = gas
bed-sitter/bed-sit = one-room apartment
starters = appetizers
knickers = panties
crisps = potato chips
whip-round = to pass the hat/collecting money to purchase something for someone
cock-up = mess
doss down = to have a shut-eye
dosser = down-and-outer
knackered = very tired
nicked = stolen
sussed = figured out
load of wallies = stupid persons
nutter = nutcase
spot (of trouble) = bit
no ruddy idea = mild swear word
(in and out of) nick = police station
I think "diary" is used in this episode to refer to a little notebook to jot down a schedule/appointments/what to do - and not as the personal secret journal of done things. I wonder if that's common English usage.
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marcia_lou — 13 years ago(February 21, 2013 04:53 PM)
George Marlowe was such a "good" villain, that until Moyra's admission of his kinky sexual preferences I was sure that someone else would soon replace him as the prime suspect. There was nothing about his character that prepared me for his being a serial killer who tortured his victims. Yes, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence and the prior conviction but I still can't believe that a man who sings old songs with his mother can be that depraved.
Of course he is guilty within the framework of the show. Presumably they will have a enough forensic evidence to convict.
Marcia
OK, now that I've already posted I realize there's a 2nd and 3rd page with this idea already discussed. There are good points on both sides but I still maintain that from I literary point of view, the viewer needs to be more prepared for his guilt, at least in retrospect. He needs to show some weakness that makes you say, "Oh yeah, I should have seen that coming." -
Thorsten-Krings — 16 years ago(November 26, 2009 01:26 AM)
Lynda LaPlante took up the basic principle, i.e. the insecurity of evidence which you face in any investigation and turned it into Trial and Retribution. I think it's one of the best things aboiut her writing that she shows the difficulty in focussing on one lione of enquiry and the danger it brings and then brutally showing us that looked at from a different angle things might actually be quite different.
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Writ_in_Water — 15 years ago(February 07, 2011 08:17 PM)
Marlow pled "not guilty" because his mother was in the courtroom. He couldn't confess to those crimes in front of her. His whole life is built around protecting her from reality.
His mother is his Achilles' heel, and the key to his character. Talking about her is how Tennison gets him to crack. Marlow tells his girlfriend, "Underneath all that glamour, she wasugly." He hates beautiful women for having what his mother couldn't have. Killing them is (in some twisted way) his way of getting justice for her. -
film_ophile — 15 years ago(February 10, 2011 01:04 AM)
writ, gee that's brilliant. i don't think that ever would have dawned on me- your last sentence, above. We just saw this tonight for the first time.gasp!
I must say, the only thing that didn't work for me was his character. maybe i'm really uninformed but it seemed to me TV-unrealistic that a very sadistic serial killer would show NO sign of mental illness. And , while i am not in favor of 'reader's digest' treatment of audiences(i.e. writing to the education level of a 12 yr. old)it would have made much more sense to me if they had shown him glancing at his mom before saying 'not guilty.'
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Krustallos — 14 years ago(April 07, 2011 04:20 PM)
it seemed to me TV-unrealistic that a very sadistic serial killer would show NO sign of mental illness
Have you never heard of Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Peter Sutcliffe or Dennis Nilsen?
Bundy and Gacy in particular were highly respected pillars of their communities, part of the reason they went undetected so long. Nilsen held down a job as a civil servant right up until he was arrested. No-one suspected anything.
And "Prime Suspect" seems to me to be based more than a little on the Peter Sutcliffe case, or certain aspects of it.
I don't necessarily think we're to conclude it has to do with his mother anyway. He's shown himself to be a shameless liar throughout. Not having guilt to trouble them, many psychopaths are.
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film_ophile — 14 years ago(April 07, 2011 07:54 PM)
astounding to you i'm sure, but no, while i have heard some of their names, i do not know anything about those people; I will now go and read about them. thank you for the info. it will interest me most of all to learn if MOST people thought these killers were 'normal' or if there were also more sensitive people who always thought these guys were weird, untrustable and/or potentially dangerous. i have a copy of a film to watch about Jonestown and Jim Jones, along this same line of inquiry.
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Is to share what we have.