Was jimmy trying to kill Karen at the end?
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kag2 — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 06:23 PM)
Possibly, but I would vote for it being her paranoia.
Not that Jimmy wouldn't do it to protect himself or in order to get to Henry - who he probably was going to whack. But at that point kidnapping Karen would have been smarter than killing her. And not harming her might have been even smarter.
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smokescreensemerge-538-372043 — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 11:24 PM)
The whole seen already tells you that her murder would have happened indefinitely. Even Jimmy was trying his best to get her into the shop and if he had come after her close enough he would have man handled her to her death. Some people are really slow
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rosettacare — 10 years ago(December 23, 2015 02:45 AM)
I was always baffled by this scene and was on the verge of posting a question when I discovered this thread. I would go with her drug fueled paranoia. If Jimmy wanted to kill her, he would have, as he killed the others off. He wouldn't have left it to chance and allow her to walk in an alley where she could and did, run away. Another possibility is that, Jimmy probably felt that Karen didn't know about the heist in too great a detail. Remember, Henry as a kid never ratted and Henry was already two/triple timing Karen for a long time. Jimmy probably felt, Henry wouldn't have confided in Karen.
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vmarinaccio76 — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 06:32 PM)
The guys in the store are stacking crates and you hear one of them say block the window. What do you think they were going to do had Karen went in there? Checked and made sure the dresses Jimmy claimed he had in there fit?
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paulyriobr-1 — 10 years ago(February 06, 2016 09:41 AM)
Why would Jimmy Conway bother to go through such an elaborate ruse? He could have had both of them kidnapped or killed any time anywhere, as he had done with the others he had killed. He knew where they lived, where their relatives lived, their hangouts, hiding places, and all of their habits. Then there was Jimmy's connections with the police who would have at least let Jimmy know if Henry was a rat in the first place. I'm with the Karen was paranoid crowd.
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NikolajCostas1005 — 10 years ago(February 07, 2016 08:45 PM)
Regardless of what (would have) actually happened, I think in the film it's absolutely implied that Jimmy was planning to kill or kidnap Karen. It's a great scene that was perfectly set up. By the time we see it, we're already fairly familiar with the way the mob discreetly carries out its deeds. You could practically smell the tension in that scene.
See you in hell, candy boys! -
insomniac-ahmad — 10 years ago(February 09, 2016 10:52 PM)
My theory.
He knew she was broke, had no money and needed more coke to go on.
So, he thought of taking advantage of her miserable situation and push her into having sex for money(dresses). He was already planning on killing Henry, so destroying his wife first seemed a good idea may be.. -
kag2 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:04 PM)
I suspect he WASN'T trying to harm her or kidnap her at that point, and the paranoia was ruling the day for Karen. BUT, you could surely see it as a distinct possibility. Have his man in the store grab her and hold her as hostage to get at Henry.
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kag2 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 08:03 PM)
Jimmy was very practical (if violent). To kill Karen might have landed him in hot water with Paulie, as wives were often untouchables, although not always if they were directly involved. To kidnap her to get to Henry? Probably more sensible. But would it have been smarter to do as he did, try to hoodwink Henry?