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Was jimmy trying to kill Karen at the end?

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    rosettacare — 10 years ago(December 23, 2015 02:45 AM)

    I was always baffled by this scene and was on the verge of posting a question when I discovered this thread. I would go with her drug fueled paranoia. If Jimmy wanted to kill her, he would have, as he killed the others off. He wouldn't have left it to chance and allow her to walk in an alley where she could and did, run away. Another possibility is that, Jimmy probably felt that Karen didn't know about the heist in too great a detail. Remember, Henry as a kid never ratted and Henry was already two/triple timing Karen for a long time. Jimmy probably felt, Henry wouldn't have confided in Karen.

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        JeromeSilberman1 — 10 years ago(December 28, 2015 01:38 PM)

        i think he wanted her gone, also in that scene as she is leaving one of the MOCK plates fall off and reveals a California plate! how did martin not get that??

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          pacsuncali3 — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 12:53 AM)

          He was definitely planning on killing her in that scene. He was so adament. So persistent.

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            molypocho — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 06:38 AM)

            Maybe he was trying to kidnap her in order to buy an edge over Henry.

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              corywiththet — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 03:16 PM)

              Jimmy was going to kidnap Karen to lure Henry to his death and kill the pair.

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                vmarinaccio76 — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 06:32 PM)

                The guys in the store are stacking crates and you hear one of them say block the window. What do you think they were going to do had Karen went in there? Checked and made sure the dresses Jimmy claimed he had in there fit?

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                  paulyriobr-1 — 10 years ago(February 06, 2016 09:41 AM)

                  Why would Jimmy Conway bother to go through such an elaborate ruse? He could have had both of them kidnapped or killed any time anywhere, as he had done with the others he had killed. He knew where they lived, where their relatives lived, their hangouts, hiding places, and all of their habits. Then there was Jimmy's connections with the police who would have at least let Jimmy know if Henry was a rat in the first place. I'm with the Karen was paranoid crowd.

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                    NikolajCostas1005 — 10 years ago(February 07, 2016 08:45 PM)

                    Regardless of what (would have) actually happened, I think in the film it's absolutely implied that Jimmy was planning to kill or kidnap Karen. It's a great scene that was perfectly set up. By the time we see it, we're already fairly familiar with the way the mob discreetly carries out its deeds. You could practically smell the tension in that scene.
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                      insomniac-ahmad — 10 years ago(February 09, 2016 10:52 PM)

                      My theory.
                      He knew she was broke, had no money and needed more coke to go on.
                      So, he thought of taking advantage of her miserable situation and push her into having sex for money(dresses). He was already planning on killing Henry, so destroying his wife first seemed a good idea may be..

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                        corywiththet — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 12:29 PM)

                        Jimmy was using the "dresses" as a ruse to kidnap Karen, lure Henry there to rescue Karen and whack both of them.

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                            undashing — 9 years ago(April 13, 2016 02:09 AM)

                            He probably tried to keep her as hostage to stop Henry from squealing,

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                              kag2 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:04 PM)

                              I suspect he WASN'T trying to harm her or kidnap her at that point, and the paranoia was ruling the day for Karen. BUT, you could surely see it as a distinct possibility. Have his man in the store grab her and hold her as hostage to get at Henry.
                              I guess we will never know for sure

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                                  William_Hunt — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 04:49 AM)

                                  fap888 summed it all up for me, yes I thought he was going to have her whacked, the look on Jimmy's face when she didn't go in said it all

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                                    kag2 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 08:03 PM)

                                    Jimmy was very practical (if violent). To kill Karen might have landed him in hot water with Paulie, as wives were often untouchables, although not always if they were directly involved. To kidnap her to get to Henry? Probably more sensible. But would it have been smarter to do as he did, try to hoodwink Henry?

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                                      WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(March 30, 2023 02:57 AM)

                                      Well, you know how annoying Karens can be so why not?
                                      Who here would be against anyone trying to kill a Karen?
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