Marty Crane Should Have Died Around Season 5
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Frasier
Benihanahasnofunflare — 13 years ago(July 25, 2012 04:59 PM)
The conceit of having crabby ex-cop dad was so old by then.
Marty is so uptight and proletariat; and his sons are so upscale!
His sons like wine.
He likes beer andwait for it: IN CANS! Oh my.
And he has a smelly chair. How kooky!
Ok: It was funny and plausible for 3 seasons. MAYBE. Kick the guy out or let him die by season 5. Have a funny funeral where they bury that gross chair along with him to get rid of the smell it was causing in Frasier's place.
After Season 5: no way, no more Marty! Just makes the show less credible. -
celluloid9 — 13 years ago(July 25, 2012 05:54 PM)
Martin was one of the characters who grew the best throughout the series. In the beginning he could be viewed as somewhat annoying, however he came into his own as the series progressed. Season 5 was the turning point for Martin's character - after this he really became a more likable person.
Not only did Martin become of the more likable characters in the series, he also added Frasier's character by creating a relationship with his son. It was a touching relationship which really bloomed as the series progressed. To have eliminated such a good character in the beginning of this show would have been a very, very bad mistake. -
!!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 13 years ago(July 27, 2012 09:03 PM)
Yes, I must agree, drinking beer out of a can is absolutely appalling. How dare the producers defile our screen with such scenes of decadence and horror as that? What next - a man sitting in a reclining chair? I'm off to burn, in protest, all 11 seasons of my Frasier DVDs.
Actually, I rather like "Dial M for Martin". There are many episodes I'd put on a list of low points of the show before that. However, each to his own opinion (thankfully.
You describe Martin as uptight. Don't you think the same applies to Frasier and Niles to a greater degree? -
nimstic — 10 years ago(June 09, 2015 06:12 AM)
Marty's our dad, man. Going by your comments, possibly your great, grand-dad.
Please have some sense and understand the idea behind Marty's character. He is supposed to be old-fashioned, everyman (and therefore, cliched - duh!?) and a COP (egoistic, tough, uptight and need I say more?). His character is supposed to be in sharp contrast to his pretentious, arrogant and pompous sons. That's part of the comic plot. This show is very down to earth, so it shows people as they are (none of the characters except maybe Daphne, would you regard as perfectly sensible people anyway) -
nimstic — 10 years ago(June 09, 2015 06:15 AM)
Sir/Ma'am, you have just uttered the most brilliant line that would help me through IMDB threads for as long as I log in.
"each to his own opinion (thankfully)"
You have no idea how much sense & power that "thankfully" packs. And just the right dose of sarcasm!
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pmsgo — 10 years ago(October 05, 2015 06:03 AM)
I noticed that in Seasons 8 and 9 (which I abhorred) that Martin softened up a bit and laughed more and was a delightful character, Frasier seemed to be more uptight and yelling more. a bit of a reversal.
(I notice this because my dog seems to like the voice of Frasier to fall asleep to but he kept looking up startled instead of relaxing.) -
joyfarrah — 13 years ago(July 26, 2012 11:11 PM)
Precisley. And Martin was IMO the heart of the show. His problems with the boys were there, and he wasn't perfect, but he was teh one who had taught them what was good in them, as Niles says in one ep "where do you think I learned my ethics"
You could maybe write out Daphne but you simply could not write out Martin Niles or Frasier.