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rice-1 — 18 years ago(December 01, 2007 05:39 PM)
actually we didn't try to win the 'revolutionary war' too much.
we were fighting your friends the French at the time.
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The_Dougster — 9 years ago(September 26, 2016 05:48 PM)
actually we didn't try to win the 'revolutionary war' too much.
we were fighting your friends the French at the time.
I'm sorry but that's classic revisionist history.
Anyway we left the ass kicking of you guys to the Vietnamese farmers and Grenaden students.
Facts are facts. The Vietnamese did run us out. "Grenaden students"? What the hell are you talking about? The 1983 invasion of Grenada? Hardly a great military victory on our part but we hardly got our asses kicked either. -
tenkisoratoti — 18 years ago(December 03, 2007 04:55 AM)
'Ass' kicking? Just remember it was the Americans who lost most of the battles and suffered heavier casualties. The British left because it was too expensive to keep putting down a group of terrorists and insurgents. And then America had a stab at imperialism not 30 years into its founding but ended up having its 'ass' royally handed to it by a bunch of half arsed red coats and moose humpers.
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Stevicus-2 — 18 years ago(February 26, 2008 06:48 PM)
Don't forget the War of 1812. The last time the British and Americans met in battle, this is what the British did:
"Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico."
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mrh1000-1 — 18 years ago(February 27, 2008 03:20 AM)
I seem to recall the Vietnam War and Americans napalming women and children, what bravery.
I don't seem to remember a resounding US victory in that war, although I do remember the Americans scurrying on to helicopters as their embassy was finally stormed by the crowds.
America is now known as the worlds bully, what do you think is going on at Guatanamo Bay.
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Gareth2061 — 18 years ago(February 27, 2008 05:38 PM)
The Op's post was inarticulate and moronic and not really worth of all of this response.
Ameerica is in the driving seat at the moment, if it wasnt someone else would be. True the US has made a few poorly judged moves lately, just be glad it isnt China or Russia where your life really doesnt mean a damn.
"If I'm laughing at what I think I am, its very funny" -
mrh1000-1 — 18 years ago(February 29, 2008 11:22 AM)
Oh, get over yourself, will you? Now that you bring it up, I seem to recall a little country called India that you Brits decided to prop your feet up on for well over a century (after killing the people who didn't want you to, of course), so don't give me that holier-than-thou attitude like your country is so morally superior to ours. Not to mention your ancestors, who decided in the 5th-6th centuries that they liked England except for all those pesky Welsh people who were living there already (please remember this the next time you want to criticize Americans for taking land from the American Indians).
The OP is an obnoxious ass, but America is not the evil power you all seem to think it is. If you really think that, then I suggest you all study the history of EVERY NATION ON EARTH and realize that EVERYBODY sucks. Why can't we leave it at that?
The Empire was mainly based on trade, and we didn't massacre Indians, that happened in 1847 when we left and a civil war errupted in which a million were killed. The nation of Pakistan was then born.
America is not being the evil power you think it is, and Britain is?????????
Is this what you are trying to suggest. When you people start a thread like this don't be surprised when people become defensive. I didn't start a thread regarding how evil America is, but I will highlight cases in response to Americans with their Hollywood history accusing the rest of the world of being evil.
America even freely admits waterboarding and tortuting techniques being used against untried suspects in Guantanmo Bay. America does not adhere to either the Geneva Convention, which the American Government has said is outdated or other international laws. Finally as I already mentioned only a few decades ago American forces were using Napalm and Agent Orange against Vietnamese Villages.
Americans can hardly criticise other nations.
Even at home America imprisons more people than any other nation, and figures just released show 2.3 million in jail. The UK would have to imprison 460,000 people to match American rates. We actually have a UK Prison populastion of 90,000 one of the highest in Europe.
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Maegnas — 12 years ago(October 08, 2013 06:08 PM)
The Empire was mainly based on trade, and we didn't massacre Indians,
General Dyer waswhat? Chinese perhaps? American? Persian?
And I believe he did, in Amritsar, hand out chocolate chip cookies, right?
Cute and cuddly boyz!! -
Stevicus-2 — 18 years ago(February 29, 2008 04:15 PM)
I seem to recall the Vietnam War and Americans napalming women and children, what bravery.
I don't seem to remember a resounding US victory in that war, although I do remember the Americans scurrying on to helicopters as their embassy was finally stormed by the crowds.
America is now known as the worlds bully, what do you think is going on at Guatanamo Bay.
For an American to start a thread like this is laughable.
Well, to be honest, I was really just joking when I wrote that stanza from Johnny Horton's "The Battle of New Orleans."
But I do have to admit that the movie "In the Name of the Father" does rile up some rather raw emotions. It does cause people to get mad at the British legal system. Moreover, even if it may sound chauvinistic, an American might see a movie like this and be glad that we kicked the British out over 200 years ago. This is how threads like this get started on the IMDb message boards, and I agree that, in many ways, it
is
laughable.
But don't forget that Hollywood does a lot of trashing of America as well, so don't get the idea that it's all one-sided trashing of the whole world.
I don't know what Vietnam has to do with any of this discussion, though. The Americans were scurrying away on helicopters because they were ordered to do so by their civilian authorities. Even though the North Vietnamese broke the peace agreement, the Congress refused to allow funding for U.S. troops to return to enforce the peace terms. That wasn't a military defeat; that was a political forfeit.
Of course, there is a bit of a history behind that region and the war you're referring to, much of which involves Britain's other partner in crime, France. Anglo-French aggression in the early part of the 20th century indirectly led to the rise of both Hitler and Stalin, not to mention all the turmoil left over in the former colonial regions in Africa and South Asia. All because it was too much for Britain or France to accept peace without annexations or indemnities. President Wilson tried to get them to listen to reason, but they just wouldn't.
As a result, it was left to America to clean up all the mess that was left over. That's how we ended up in places like Vietnam and why our military is doing what it's doing in Guantanamo Bay.
Remember, we didn't ask for this, not really. We were just having a nice little time in our isolationist republic, when some other world powers decided they wanted to drag us into a war that we didn't want. Now that we're in it, you cry "foul"? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
It wasn't our president at the Munich Conference. You asked for us. Now you've got us.