The I hate Emily thread
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 01:43 PM)
mrssutherland2013
wrote:
HOW on EARTH anyone can berate Emily for any of her actions, while forgiving Rachel's is absolutely beyond me.
I don't understand it either, I keep thinking there should be some way to explain Emily's position to people, but I don't have much success.
Somehow, a lot of people can't put themselves in Emily's position. I find that easy to do.
Sure, to tell Ross she wants to know whee he is ALL THE TIME is a bit extreme,
I don't think she meant that literally though Ross took it literally as an excuse to start an argument with her and bail on his agreement with her.
She had just found Ross exactly where he had said he would not be, i.e., around Rachel, when she said it. I believe that Emily would've calmed down as she gained confidence in her relationship with Ross. And as Ross showed that he is going to stay away from Rachel. -
nataliadenise — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 12:14 PM)
Great post. She was a little Harsh after the wedding but I really understood. Can you imagine if what happened to her happened to you? I would die.
Her biggest mistake was going through with a wedding to a man who never stopped being in love with a pretty terrible shrew. I never liked Rachel and Emily was a fresh breath of air. Which means I knew they would write her out and ruin her. -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 02:19 PM)
nataliadenise
wrote:
She was a little Harsh after the wedding
LOL
I think that "a little harsh" would've been Emily going after Ross's eyes with her fingernails.
She doesn't actually run away from Ross until he tries to pass off his saying the wrong name as a joke. I understand her reaction to that.
Can you imagine if what happened to her happened to you? I would die.
Yes, and if I had done it, I would want to kill myself.
Her biggest mistake was going through with a wedding to a man who never stopped being in love with a pretty terrible shrew.
Except that she doesn't know that. You can have someone stuck in your head the way that Ross does with Rachel, but want desperately to get them out.
The problem is that ultimately Ross does not want Rachel out of his head. There is no way that Emily could know that. Hell, Ross doesn't know that until Emily is on the verge of moving to New York.
Ross has spent a lot of time convincing himself that he is over Rachel before marrying Emily. He spends a lot of time convincing himself that he is over Rachel after coming back to New York. But it just isn't true.
At the last minute, Ross has to choose between marriage with Emily and being able to see Rachel whatever he wants. We know what he chose.
I agree with you about
PSYCHO BITCH
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 08:41 AM)
xMartyMcFlyx
wrote:
I just never liked her, she just comes off as a snobby bitch to me.
How many women do you think that you know who would show up at the airport roughly 12 hours after the man that they were marrying said the wrong name at the altar?
How many women do you think that you know who after showing up at the airport and seeing her husband and his ex-lover getting on the plane to go on her honeymoon would later agree to move to New York to try to make the marriage work?
She is amazingly forgiving woman.
I don't see anything snobbish about her, but Rachel is absolutely a Princess, a JAP.
As far as being a bitch goes, Rachel has got her all beat to hell. It is no contest. -
mrssutherland2013 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 02:39 PM)
Thank you, previous poster. Spot on.
I can't see people's thought processes regarding this, I really can't. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm not ALWAYS right lol) its a complete no brainer.
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Moonlighty — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 02:59 PM)
I can't see people's thought processes regarding this, I really can't. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm not ALWAYS right lol) its a complete no brainer.
That doesn't make you sound good. Is it really impossible for you to see someone else's perspective?Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 07:11 PM)
Moonlighty
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Is it really impossible for you to see someone else's perspective?
Doesn't that rather depend on the other person's perspective. I cannot understand the perspective of people who think that the earth is flat. I cannot understand the perspective of people who think the moon landing was faked.
In this particular case, I cannot understand the perspective of people who are incapable of putting themselves in Emily's position and so blame her for trying to save her marriage.
I suppose you can understand anyone's perspective on anything by saying that they are just nuts. But in general, it needs to be a perspective that makes sense, not something that is just off-the-wall. -
xMartyMcFlyx — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 02:38 PM)
I would also to like to add that part of the reason I hate Emily is because everyone hated her except Ross. Don't you remember the episode where Joey kept trying to tell Ross but Phoebe kept pinching him? He literally came out and said "we al hate Emily!" if I'm not mistaken
And what I meant by her suddenly barging into Ross' life so suddenly out of nowhere was that she just shows up one day at Monica's apartment acting like a complete bitch, granted I think she was covered in rain or something at the time, but Ross rushed into a relationship with her and decided he wanted to marry her after like 2 weeks? He has been in love with Rachel since high school. I'm glad Ross and Rachel ended up together in the end. Even though sleeping with the girl from the copy place when they were "on a break" was wrong Ross felt guilty about it and knew it was wrong. Rachel is just as faulty as Ross is in so many ways, but I think they belonged together. -
Painbow — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 02:55 PM)
Joey said they all hated Emily.
Chandler responded with shock at a this statement, Phoebe screams "no!" and then Monica explains that they don't all hate Emily, they just hate the situation.
Joey was just a little confused (as usual). -
mrssutherland2013 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 04:54 PM)
May be "just a show", but the OP feels strongly enough to use the word "hate" about the character.
And like it or not, other people feel differently about the character for obvious reasons, whether its just a show or not. And we are here to discuss our thoughts and opinions on the show, even though it is "just a show."
If you're feeling a little resentment here, may I suggest you relocate to the "real life" board.
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Arnold25 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 07:35 PM)
And where did I say you couldn't discuss the show? If you like Emily, be my guest. I like her too. But you're basically criticizing someone for hating her because you don't like their reason for it, which isn't discussing the show.
You're the one acting like it's real life here, and acting like the poster is morally wrong for not liking a character who was in like 10 episodes and isn't real. People can hate a TV character for any reason they want. It says nothing about them morally. -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 09:34 PM)
Arnold25
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But you're basically criticizing someone for hating her because you don't like their reason for it, which isn't discussing the show.
This is
The I hate Emily thread
. The poster who started it describes it as
This is where we post our reasons for hating that conniving little brat.
I believe that set the tone for the ensuing discussion. That did not encourage a discussion of the show. It encouraged dumping on Emily, and some of us want to answer why people say they hate Emily.
Are you saying that a poster cannot criticize another poster because their reasons for hating Emily do not make any sense. That is the complaint; that the posters who hate Emily are not making any sense. It has nothing to do with not "liking" the reason. It has a lot to do with judging that the reason is crap.
It says nothing about them morally.
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 03:01 PM)
The others were all biased and hypocrites. They hated Emily because they expected their group to always stay together. None of them had ever been married, and thought
FRIENDS
was the be all and end all for everything. Now that Ross had a wife, she was asking him to do things for the relationship -not his friends.
Ross even told them that.
How bout we have things conversation when one of you gets married? You have no idea what it takes to make a marriage work. You do things. Do you always like it? No. Do you do it? Yes. because it's not all candy in the sky, drinking coffee at Central Perk everyday. It's real life. It's what grown-ups do!
That weren't grown-ups. They expected to always stick together as a group, and if a significant other came in and threatened to take someone away, or ruin their clique, then they were an enemy. Like when Rachel hears about Emily not wanting Ross to see her, and she laughs and instantly expected Ross to pick her over his wife. With her
"What are you going to tell her?"
Joey was the worst with this. However, they all finally grew up in the end. They were all getting married and starting with kids. Now they see that friends isn't always the be all and end all for everything. Families come 1st. Monica and Chandler were getting a baby and planning to move out of the city. Everyone was upset, but got over it -except Joey. Then Rachel was going to go to Paris.
Look at how hypocritical the girls are with Joey. He treats woman like crap, but his female friends don't care. Then when Erin comes along and treats Joey like he did countless other women, Phoebe and Rachel get an attitude with her and call her a tramp.
If you're gonna pretend to cut her hair, at least put some scissors in your hand!
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Arnold25 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 03:57 PM)
They didn't hate Emily. Joey was the only who said that. The rest immediately said they didn't, and said they just thought she was being a little unreasonable.
Everyone besides Joey was actually very mature about it. They didn't say anything or planned to say anything until Joey ran his mouth and Ross wanted to know what was going on. Then they pointed out logical reasons for thinking she was unreasonable like Emily forcing him to move and sell all of his stuff.
Joey was the only one being immature and a jerk. The rest were fine.