Emma's name
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Moonlighty — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 07:28 AM)
It was pretty common at the time, but Ross leaned more told old fashioned then unusual, and Emma is an old fashioned name.
Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
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marialucia1985 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 08:39 AM)
I think Rachel only wanted Emma because it was Monica's "chosen" name for her own child. She was quite happy to steal it. If Monica said any other name, she would've picked that too.
They should've stuck with the name Isabella, it's pretty! -
SerenityInSpace — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 10:12 AM)
I think Rachel only wanted Emma because it was Monica's "chosen" name for her own child. She was quite happy to steal it. If Monica said any other name, she would've picked that too.
I know that some people really don't like Rachel, but what evidence is there to suggest that she is that petty and mean spirited towards Monica? I know that she once "stole her thunder", but to purposefully use a name Monica wanted, for the purpose of stealing it, I'm just not getting that. -
marialucia1985 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 11:09 AM)
Tbh, I do like Rachel. I just found it a bit too convenient that she all of a sudden fell in love with the name. Why that name?
Monica should've made up another name on the spot, one that she detests, lol, then keep "Emma" for herself.
Don't get me wrong, I think Rachel's a good person and she loves her friends and family.
But there would be moments where she showed her spoilt, selfish side and the others would sometimes give in to her, be self-sacrificing.
Going back to the name thing, Monica clearly loved the name "Emma", having chosen it when she was little. But because she's a decent person and loves her bestfriend, she willlingly gave it to her.
I'm not sure Rachel would do the same, if it were the other way around.
I also think if Rachel were a good friend, she wouldn't so happily take a name that clearly meant so much to Monica.
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cecelia_lisbon — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 07:02 PM)
No you're totally right. What kind of person would take her best friend's baby name? That always made me mad. Monica was not offering the name to her, and out of all the names in the world, Rachel just had to have that one then even though it was MONICA'S and she was clearly saddened by it. There's no excuse for that and I highly doubt she would have done the same for Mon. Like you indicated, why wouldn't you want to use your own brain anyway and come up with your own name for your own child? Plus "Emma" is boring as anything.
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marialucia1985 — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 04:54 AM)
Thanks, i appreciate your comment.
Actually, something similar happened in my family.
In 1980, two of my Aunties were expecting a child at the same time, both boys.
One Aunty announced she'd chosen a boy's name that she loved - "Darren" and that would be his name. My other Aunty, fully aware of this information, got in there first and named her son "Darren". He was born two months before my other cousin.
Talk about petty. -
kodakjones — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 09:55 AM)
Yeah, well I'm still a bit baffled as to why Ross gets let off the hook about this subject, even though he is just as responsible for stealing the name Emma as Rachel is, he could have named the child anything else, it shouldn't have all fallen back to Rachel, also when Monica was just trying to be supportive to Rachel and say it'll be okay, she [Rachel] will find a name, Ross insulted her, saying, ["Yeah, easy for you, you already know what your kid's names will be"] jeeze, Ross she was just trying to help! Ross should get more blame for this! Chandler's quick quip about their future kids being named after snacks and baked goods wasn't much better, and Monica even told her to take it! Rachel said that she couldn't because Monica really loved the name, and Monica said she loved the name, but she loved Rachel more. Monica really didn't seem to mind, she said' "It's okay you can have it"
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cecelia_lisbon — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 02:27 PM)
If you think Monica didn't mind, you have no emotional perception
But really, did Ross even have a choice in the name, or was this just "Rachel's baby" and she got to name her, give her her last name, etc.? -
kodakjones — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 04:55 PM)
No, it doesn't mean I have no emotional perception, it means you did not watch the episode or even the clip? It's right there on youtube.
Monica said: "Take it, she is clearly an Emma."
Rachel said: "But you love that name."
Monica said: "I love you more."
It's all there black and white on video, sorry the camera doesn't lie, that includes video cameras!
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mrssutherland2013 — 9 years ago(December 01, 2016 09:20 PM)
I was always irritated rachel just HAD to grab hold of Monica's name as well. Monica was put on the spot although she was daft mentioning it I think she should have kept it to herself.
But Rachel is very selfish, so it's not surprising. I don't think she did it out of malice. But because she endlessly put herself first.
Sure she said you love that name to Monica, but seriously she didnt need much persuading!!
Plus Monica is Emma's aunt and at least a relative so I suppose its not so bad, instead of having a daughter with the name she gained a niece.
Going back to the original question its a programme so I doubt much thought went into it, but i know someone with thecsurname Green who has stated she will never hyphenate her surname if she marries because if you notice, Green sounds weird no matter what you put it with, as it is a colour. Try it.
also to moonlighty, pretty sure at did call Emma Emily at some point, that is what lead to Rachel slipping up and says it herself later in the episode.
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cecelia_lisbon — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 08:19 AM)
I was always irritated rachel just HAD to grab hold of Monica's name as well. Monica was put on the spot although she was daft mentioning it I think she should have kept it to herself.
But Rachel is very selfish, so it's not surprising. I don't think she did it out of malice. But because she endlessly put herself first.
Sure she said you love that name to Monica, but seriously she didnt need much persuading!!
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kodakjones — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 09:54 AM)
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I was always irritated rachel just HAD to grab hold of Monica's name as well. Monica was put on the spot although she was daft mentioning it I think she should have kept it to herself.
But Rachel is very selfish, so it's not surprising. I don't think she did it out of malice. But because she endlessly put herself first.
Sure she said you love that name to Monica, but seriously she didn't need much persuading!!
She almost didn't go with the name Emma! Besides, Rachel could still argue over and over again, and Monica could say take it, over and over again, that would make for lousy tv, wouldn't you say? Given what Rachel had been going through, nine months before this, and the birth and not having a name readylet it go. Monica didn't even end up using the boy's name she picked for a boy so, I wonder who stole the name Daniel from her. Also, some of the blame has to fall on Ross, for God's sakes since he's Emma's father and Monica's older brother, he is just as involved in the name's theft by not demanding Rachel right then and there pick a new name and let Monica keep the name Emma. Ross should have come up with another name for the child since Rachel wasn't up to it. Instead of Ross his name should be "Toss" because he "Toss" the responsibility and let Monica lose the name Emma and came off scot-free!
Now let's look at Emma's last name GELLER-GREEN. Not Green, Not Green-Geller, it's GELLER-GREEN for crying out loud.
Remember how Toss, Susan and Carol had a giant argument about this same subject [except it was for naming Ben] that went on for episodes, and the lesbians tried to get Susan's last name in place of Geller?
Putting Geller as the baby's last name was supposed to make up for everything, but people are too dumb to realize that.
How could Rachel have been putting herself first if she gave the baby the last name Geller without any prodding whatsoever?