I'm sure this has been discussed a lot before but I don't care!
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(October 27, 2016 07:30 PM)
harry-browne8
wrote:
Personally, I think that they were in a break, but not a 'Break-UP',
Neither Ross nor Rachel agree with you. They both knew that they were broken up.
Rachel admitted it the next day:
Ross
: Look, I didnt think there was a relationship to jeopardize. I thought we were broken up.
Rachel
: We were on a break!
Ross
: That, for all I knew would, could last forever. That to me is
a break-up.
Rachel
:
You think youre gonna get out of this on a technicality?
Ross
: Look, Im not trying to get out of anything, okay. I thought our relationship was dead!
Ross said that they were broken up. Rachel does not argue about it; she describes being broken up as a "technicality."
Why do you think your understanding is better than that of Ross and Rachel? -
Petals121 — 9 years ago(December 04, 2016 04:19 PM)
Then what difference does it make whether Mark was in Rachel's apartment or not? I mean she and Ross were broken up after all. She could be with Mark all she wanted.
"I will not be strong armed by threats against my laundry" -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 08:27 AM)
SeinfeldFriend
wrote:
Vomit is a funny word
LOL
People dump on immy, myself up on occasion included, but it is in situations such as this one that she shows her true worth.
If the OP genuinely wants to talk about break or no break, you can be sure that immy, if no one else, will talk with him about it. -
SeinfeldFriend — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 01:01 PM)
For sure! If people want to keep discussing it, go for it. I can't discuss it anymore, so thought I'd go with a little comedy relief for myself haha (It's actually a Seinfeld quote, but it was late so I forgot to put quotation marks around it)
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 03:15 PM)
SeinfeldFriend
wrote:
If people want to keep discussing it, go for it.
I don't. I just find it exasperating that quite a few people still argue about it when both Ross and Rachel knew that they were broken up at the time.
That we know, I think, for sure. What there is no certainty about is what the hell it means to be on a "break." Different people have very different interpretations, and there simply isn't a definitive one. There is no agreement about what the rules are, so arguing about that is arguing about something that doesn't have any solution.
If Ross had interpreted the situation as a probably temporary break, he would never have gotten in bed with Chloe. He would never argue that if you are on a "break" that may be temporary that you have the right to have sex with someone else.
I can stop whenever I want to. Really I can. -
Painbow — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 03:07 AM)
A relationship doesn't just abruptly come to an end any more so than it instantly comes into being on the first date. Most people acknowledge this without looking for technicalities or loop holes (presumably because they don't watch friends).
If you ended a relationship and then discovered that the person you thought loved you was fcking someone else three hours later, I can assure you;- You'd feel cheated on.
- You'd question whether you really knew this person at all.
And you'd respond to the excuse "
but we were broken up
" with utter disdain.
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imaneassi — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 06:29 AM)
Well precisely,break or break up, he proved that his so called love for Rachel was a huge lie, he's been cheating her about the strengh and deph of his feelings.No one would bed someone else 3hrs after a break or break up with the so called love of his life.But in order to save the "endgame" couple, the writers needed to focus on what didn't matter( break or break up?)in a desperate attempt to make us forget that Ross's so called love for Rachel lost all credibility
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log705 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 03:05 AM)
the break-up isn't what led him to that though, hearing Mark on the other end of the phone i think temporarily deadened his feelings toward Rachel and combined with the drinks plus the level at which Chloe was coming onto him that night, it was a reactionary thing based on the fact that he thought Rachel was already doing it herself anyway
i've always been on Ross's side on this for what it's worth, though i can obviously see why Rachel would be hurt -
imaneassi — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 06:04 AM)
What break up? There was no break up till she found out he cheated. There is no way he thought after the phone call that she dumped him. Did he think that she was cheating? If he did, he cheated too. In order for it to not be cheating, he should have ended it before hunging up.But he didn't, so no break up happened,so he cheated