Consider Sex?
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hilary_duffs_soul_mate — 19 years ago(March 09, 2007 06:52 AM)
I disagree, if a guy is in danger, like he was, i see nothing wrong with him using appropriate force to get out of that situation, and if that included striking her then yes. Of course it would be better if he can get safe without strikign her, but if its necessary then so be it. I don't think anybody should expect a man to not hit a women if he is in danger from her.
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h8patriarchy — 20 years ago(August 01, 2005 09:03 AM)
Thanks to our patriarchal society forms of harassment are something women worldwide have to endure at the working place I also don't think Sanders had sex with Meredith, but it would have come to that if Sanders wouldn't have barked that psycho down - Meredith does something men worldwide with positions in the job world do
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Helios_166 — 20 years ago(September 23, 2005 04:52 PM)
"Thanks to our patriarchal society forms of harassment are something women worldwide have to endure at the working place I also don't think Sanders had sex with Meredith, but it would have come to that if Sanders wouldn't have barked that psycho down - Meredith does something men worldwide with positions in the job world do "
i know u could have just looked above this post to see the quote but i felt that it had to be repeated due to its blatant sexism.
you are a sexist pig, pure and simple
you do not want equality
you are prejudice against all members of the opposite sex
and you think you are superior to the opposite sex
all of those characteristics are widely assosiated with sexists, of which you are one.
i felt i had to post this because nobody else had replied to her and stated the obvious.
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tyger_lilee — 20 years ago(November 12, 2005 04:39 PM)
Wow, you're quick to judge. The way I see it, that poster merely stated fact.
-"our patriarchal society"
Yes, we do have a patriarchal society. That's a fact by mere statisticslook it up. Men hold the most positions of power, men earn more in the SAME positions than women do.
-"something women worldwide have to endure at the working place"
Also a fact. You can't deny this, it happens all the time. That's why this movie is so interestingbecause harrassment going the other way happens so seldom.
-"if Sanders wouldn't have barked that psycho down"
Meredith is a psycho. Obviously this poster doesn't think ALL women are superior.
I don't seem to recall anywhere in that post that claimed women are superior or should be, nor did she anywhere say that she personally was superior to men. Did you notice that she supported Sanders and not Meredith? A rabid man-hating woman-rule-the-world kind of person would have been impressed with what Meredith pulled. Isn't that kind of the opposite of what you're claiming? Next time you want to talk about stating the obvious, make sure you don't bait the hook for the next person with half a brain to point your own finger back at yourself. Being against patriarchy isn't sexismsupporting existing patriarchy IS. Your attack on this person paints YOU as the sexist because you're so quick to bite the head off anyone who speaks out against the lack of equality in our culture. -
navstar7 — 20 years ago(December 17, 2005 08:46 AM)
To Helios 166: - "Light travels faster than sound. thats why some people appear bright until you hear them speak." Wow! I certainly must bow to your conviction that this axiom is true after you proved it so with your rabid remarks.
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s_m_ob — 17 years ago(June 10, 2008 09:29 PM)
Orgasam has nothing to do with penetration, especially since 70% of women don't have orgasams from vaginal sex, but from clitoral stimulation. So don't believe that the vagina is an inside out penis, they don't work that way, and movies just like to perpetuate this myth.
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DreTam2000 — 13 years ago(September 28, 2012 08:37 PM)
Actually, that percentage is indeed correct.
A large number of women do not experience orgasms for a variety of reasons. The vagina is a trickier part of the body than the penis, and a lot less linear in shape and in sexual scope.
It is common for women to not have orgasms. Medically, some do not have the proper glands. As a result some women have received shots from doctors in order to improve their ability to experience an orgasm.
I've known many women in my day who have had trouble with orgasms. Another reason some women tend to not have them, is because they hold back. Because the vagina is such an interior-based structure (as opposed to the more external penis) it doesn't seem as natural to some women to ejaculate during a sexual experience. Some are embarrassed or they just feel awkward, causing them to suppress the ejaculatory occurrence. Many see ejaculation as a male thing, and the idea of any orgasmic fluids dispensing (or in some cases shooting) from out of the genitalia is therefore embarrassing to some females, or it just doesn't seem right.
You'll be surprised just how many women hold back, because they don't even know that the possibility for vaginal ejaculation is an option. Another thing that can cause this is the female (and even for males) neglecting to urinate before intercourse. The sensation for urination can build up during sex and the body's natural desire to hold that back will also cause the female to hold back the orgasm.
In the case of the penis, because it is comprised of epidermis (while the vagina is more a mucus membrane interior structure), the skin of the penis is vulnerable to sensation, to the point where men cannot hold back an orgasm as easily as women can during sexual stimulation. The skin of the penis need only be stimulated in the case of men, while the vaginal interior needs more structural or muscular manipulation for orgasm purposes.
This is why the above poster states that it is much easier to cause orgasms for women by stimulating the outside of the clitoris, where more epidermis is involved (I have known guys who say that they use their fingers to play with a female's clitoris during sex in order to make them have an orgasm).
It sounds like either you are some kind of stud, or you have come across women who are freer than others mentally, to the point where they do not hold back, or they are more receptive to the sexual experience psychologically. Mental concentration is a huge factor in the occurrence of sexual orgasms, especially for females (a fully-clothed person can ejaculate just from fantasizing elaborately about something or another).
Many women aren't even sure if they've ever had an orgasm or not. And many women engage in sex and don't even know after it's over whether or not they just had an orgasm. And in many cases, their mannerisms will not display the attitude of a person who has just had sex without experiencing an orgasm, because to them (due to their unawareness and unsureness) the sexual experience for women does not even naturally result in ejaculation of any sort. To them ejaculation is a male thing. So goes the misconception. A man may have sex with five different partners and never know that none of those women had orgasms, because the females' attitudes after intercourse do not reflect the fact that they didn't have one. This is entirely common. This is why many men only
think
that the sexual experience in their sex lives is satisfying to both them and the female partners involved. And some women lie to men about having orgasms as well. And then there are those men who only
think
that they are satisfying women and they fail to realize that they are not, because neither the male or the female is sure when or how a female experiences an orgasm; or sometimes both the male and the female (wrongly) accept that an orgasm is just for the guy to begin with.
In a society where men are praised for being sexually active and known for shooting semen from our genitalia, while women are (inaccurately) assumed to be less sexual and not "shooters," it's no wonder that many women are less in touch with their orgasmic abilities, to the point of suppressing their sexual receptiveness, and being overall embarrassed with the idea of ejaculating. They fail to "cum" as a result.
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bura11 — 12 years ago(November 04, 2013 10:24 PM)
While some of what you say may be true as it seems to make sense, I don't agree with that percentage, especially not in today's world. As I understand it, women having a high sex drive in yesteryears was a taboo; today's young women generally have no qualms about what gets them going, when they want it and how they want it. In my age group (mid-twenties) I've yet to meet a woman/friend/roommate/colleague/etc who hasn't achieved orgasm MOST of the time, if not all of the time, from vaginal penetration. Granted we don't represent all women, but somehow 70% seems way too high.
While our clitoris may be outside, that magical G-spot is inside (or at least mine is apparently) and that's how vaginal orgasm is very possible.
I agree women being more familiar with their own body and more vocal about it has A LOT to do with that. I don't hold back about what I like, or how I want it and so far, that has proven quite successful. Mind is important as well. Sex is not only physical, but mental as well. Young women are not sheltered as they were in the past, they're not expected to only be on the receiving end of sex or suppress their natural sex drive. Some of this, not all of it, factors into older studies with high percentages of those unable to achieve orgasm. I'd love to see a study of 18-35 yr old women ONLY. In no way do I mean this to be derogatory or insulting nor am I implying older women can't/don't have orgasms, simply curious to see how culture changes impact sex.
Note: I'm not speaking from a scientific point of view, nor am I an expert or researcher. I'm simply observant, love a good conversation on sex with the people around me, and am mildly knowledgeable on the topic.
Side note: Faking orgasm?? Do women REALLY still do that?? It's 2013 ladies. I hope not. Never did it, never will. -
DreTam2000 — 12 years ago(December 01, 2013 08:10 PM)
Keep in mind that I gave information based on a ten-year sort of window. So a lot has changed over the course of ten years or so. New studies on women's sexuality are being published all the time. Articles and books are always released that dig further into the myths and realities of the female sexual experience.
What may be common for many women today, may not have been so common to women around the year 2000, 2001, or 2002. Much of the info I have learned, questions I have asked, discussions I have held, and personal sexual experiences are based on that era and the subsequent years. Today is 2013. Ten years has passed, and a lot happens in that time.
Your skepticism regarding whether or not women still fake orgasms today is interesting. I think many of the scenarios I have in mind are of a female and her boyfriend. Maybe some girlfriends "cum" everytime with their mate, and maybe some others seldom do. If you love a man and are with him, a lady might not say that she didn't orgasm this time or that time (especially while acknowledging the fact that women are notorious [or infamous] for having toys at their disposal for the purpose of remedying this very thing during their "alone time"). And I'm not sure it's always the fault of the male for not causing an orgasm in a female. From what I understand, the vagina is a tricky part of the body. It seems much easier to cause ejaculation of a penis than of a vagina. And some women do not have the proper glands to orgasm; many of them visit doctors to receive shots for this very issue.
I'm glad for you and your friends (sexual success), in any case ;-
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bura11 — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 09:07 AM)
Understood. And yes, you're right; much can change in a matter of ten years. Female sexuality and female sex drive is becoming far more accepted in today's world, in the developed world at least, so naturally personal observations and experiences differ with time.
As for not telling one's mate you didn't "cum", I suppose I can see why some women may not do that; personally, I prefer to be a bit vocal about what I like and if it's working for me or not. I would probably tell the guy I didn't, but not necessarily in a derogatory way or to insult/blame him. As you said, the vagina for some women can be a tricky part of the body and I imagine guys need a bit of guidance so naturally, I keep him in tune with my needs and have, as a result, been well taken care of. Also note, having to fake it has also not been an issue because the guy has always been very concerned of my climax too. without my having to say much, so I suppose it isn't fair for me to gauge using my response of not faking it as statistical probability. I suppose I've developed more of a 'in it to win it' attitude and I feel many young women today feel the same way. Anyways, I'm rambling now.
And hahah, yes I'm quite happy about my (and my friends') sexual success as well thank you!
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DreTam2000 — 12 years ago(December 05, 2013 11:54 PM)
This was a rather constructive discussion; rare on IMDB, especially given the bizarre content of our topic in particular LOL
Thank you for your responses
I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way -
natbmw2-161-449157 — 13 years ago(January 03, 2013 02:03 PM)
I don't know if you can call it sexual intercourse but definitely sexual "play" whatever it has the same dirty tune to it. She definitely was performing fellatio on him for sometime and he definitely put his fingers in her uh you get the idea..I thought it was quite obvious as you see his hand go in between her legs and the camera operator mans up with a tight lens (probably to hide whatever was actually going on) to her facial expression which was pretty damn convincing.