Brad Pitt was jaw-droppingly bad
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shatteredbluedreams — 9 years ago(April 03, 2016 04:22 AM)
Wait hold on just a second here, you knew he was in it BEFORE you watched it yet you still watched it????????????? Makes no sense, why watch a movie with someone you don't like.
I've already told you. I'd heard about this movie since '94. I like a good vampire story. So I gave it a go, even though I knew it would probably be bad.
I have already explained that, I think his performance in this was spot on.
So when you accuse someone of crushing on an actor, when they have not stated that clearly, you are just jabbing out in the dark. Which is childish to say the least.
You don't think his performance was spot on. You think his performance was awful, so you're denying the reality that he talked in a flat, emotionless voice while being aware of the camera and script.
No-one thinks bad acting is spot on. They either hate it, don't notice it cuz they're autistic, or ignore it becaue they're into the actor. Those are the only basic responses to bad acting.
So unless you're putting your hand up as someone incapable of reading emotions in face and voice, then you must be into Brad Pitt. That's hardly an outrageous suggestion. He is famous for being exceptionally good looking.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. I saw Interview with the Vampire, then knew that Pitt was awful in it. Now I'm talking about it with strangers on the internet.
Allow me to make it all clear, you came here to fight with strangers on the internet.
I don't tell the truth to fight against the lies people tell. I do it because it feels natural. I have no interest in fighting with anyone.A couple I know are getting married
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Jacob-Hudson — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 07:46 AM)
Alright I got to this point in the arguement and I gotta say, you're being a bit ridiculous. He's speakin in a detached, purposeless manner. Speaking like someone who wants nothing but to die do to his pain. Not everyone who wants death speaks this way. But some do. I speak the way he does oftentimes and I certainly don't have any speech impediment. He's thoughtful, but he wants to die. In those regards, he and I are one in the same. When you get to a point where you can rip your shirt open and ask for someone to pull the trigger to kill you, you're ready to go. Hes speaking flat, monotonous, and detached because that's what he is. He doesn't have a bunch of positive energy that's gonna come radiating from within. He just is at the point of the movie. You're correct in saying that saying someone is speaking in a flat emotionless voice isn't really an opinion. Thing is, you don't seem to find that to be within the realms of possibility for someone to speak and conduct himself as he is in the state he is. As someone who mirrors a lot of what he narrates, especially at the beginning about just longing for the release of the pain that is life, I can tell you that his personality isn't unbelievable. Considering that I myself am similar, your argument that this undoubtedly makes him a bad actor for speaking this way is wrong. Bad acting is doing sht that doesn't really happen or doing things in ways things don't really play out. He's playing out at least one persons view of life in this movie pretty well (mine) and I'm certain I'm not he only one who feels this way or speaks in this manner when I've become as detached from the idea of living as one can be. That's my opinion on the topic. I likely won't reply if anyone replies to this. I'll likely forget all about this. Still, my opinion has been stated.
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Jacob-Hudson — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 09:00 PM)
Actually, I sincerely appreciate it mate. That you would even care enough just to wish me better fortune in the future means a lot. It's not like I could honestly expect you to cure issues I've had for years without knowing anything about me or my mental issues. So I definitely wouldn't say you were being facetious. While simply wishing someone well doesn't solve much, it's still much more than you owe a stranger you've never met. I appreciate it, sincerely. I gotta try and appreciate the good things, both big and small, if I want to overcome the ugliness inside my head, so thank you very much.
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cakemonster — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 07:03 PM)
You're welcome:) I understand needing to get over the ugliness in your head. Have totally been there and am still there, occasionally. I think that ugliness is part of the human condition, unfortunately:/
Speaking from experience, and as someone who's dealt with mental issues, I'm pretty sure I get how you feel. I promise things can get better though. A lot of the time it's just a matter of working through your issues (a good shrink can help with that) and learning how to deal with problems better, instead of getting overwhelmed by them. It isn't always easy, but it
is
possible.
I'll leave you with a quote that I love, and that I think is true. It's by Ernest Hemingway:
"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places."
It's true. You're stronger than you think.
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shatteredbluedreams — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 03:51 AM)
He's speakin in a detached, purposeless manner. Speaking like someone who wants nothing but to die do to his pain. Not everyone who wants death speaks this way. But some do. I speak the way he does oftentimes and I certainly don't have any speech impediment.
Brad Pitt speaks the same throughout the film, and throughout his career. It's the speech of a bad actor, not someone detached and suicidal. You can find the same "performance" in amateur films everywhere, and many Hollywood films too.
Look up amateur short films online. There's plenty to find. You should be able to see what I mean.
When you get to a point where you can rip your shirt open and ask for someone to pull the trigger to kill you, you're ready to go. Hes speaking flat, monotonous, and detached because that's what he is.
If he was detached he wouldn't be showing awareness of the script and the camera, and his performance would vary throughout the movie. This isn't about his character.
Thing is, you don't seem to find that to be within the realms of possibility for someone to speak and conduct himself as he is in the state he is. As someone who mirrors a lot of what he narrates, especially at the beginning about just longing for the release of the pain that is life, I can tell you that his personality isn't unbelievable.
Crushing depression creates a lack of affectedness. I'm very shy but find myself uncaring about social embarrassment when I'm feeling desperately bleak. It's not an easy state to replicate for an actor. As I've said before, Pitt is wooden and flat in all his movies. He doesn't have the talent to play a fantastical immortal creature like a vampire, much less a human at the end of their rope.
You're in love with the idea of the movie, rather than the reality of it. As you said, it's a mirror for you.A couple I know are getting married
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Talamasca2 — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 01:26 AM)
According to Looper (
@3:30) Brad Pitt wanted to buy out his contract and leave the project, but was unable or unwilling to pony up the 40 MILLION dollars to do so.
Brad Pitt has made it clear through interviews over the years that he hated working on this movie. He hated the nighttime shooting schedule, he didn't get along well with Tom Cruise, he didn't like Anne Rice's fans.
He was probably trying to walk that fine line, hoping the work he was doing would get him replaced without being over-the-top awful and deliberate sabotage, while doing a passable job just in case he had to account for his performance as a stylistic choice.
With all that being said, the way Louis' voice in the book is written, it depicts a man so deep in his depression that he IS slightly disjointed from the world around him. Louis is not living in real time. That his outward manner would be such as Mr.Pitt portrayed him would not be out of place or surprising.
"What would Christ need have done to make me follow him like Matthew or Peter? Dress well, to begin with. And have a luxurious head of pampered yellow hair."- Louis, Interview With The Vampire (Anne Rice)
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shatteredbluedreams — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 06:21 PM)
Brad Pitt wanted to buy out his contract and leave the project, but was unable or unwilling to pony up the 40 MILLION dollars to do so.
Brad Pitt has made it clear through interviews over the years that he hated working on this movie. He hated the nighttime shooting schedule, he didn't get along well with Tom Cruise, he didn't like Anne Rice's fans.
He was probably trying to walk that fine line, hoping the work he was doing would get him replaced without being over-the-top awful and deliberate sabotage, while doing a passable job just in case he had to account for his performance as a stylistic choice.
That's an original excuse.
The problem is that Interview with the Vampire was the movie that made Brad Pitt a star, so it's unlikely that he wanted out. More than that, he gives the same performance in all his movies.
He is just as flat and lifeless in Seven, Fight Club, the Ocean's trilogy, and all the rest.
Have you ever seen Meet Joe Black? Claire Forlani looked like she was talking to a cardboard cutout.
With all that being said, the way Louis' voice in the book is written, it depicts a man so deep in his depression that he IS slightly disjointed from the world around him. Louis is not living in real time. That his outward manner would be such as Mr.Pitt portrayed him would not be out of place or surprising.
Disagree totally. Pitt's portrayal showed no depression or any other emotion. Try watching the saloon scene with your eyes shut. Pitt sounds as wooden as though he was auditioning for the part opposite a disinterested casting agent.A couple I know are getting married
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— 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 11:23 AM)Hello Shattered,
Although I am a fan of this film I do agree with you somewhat about Brad Pitt.
While it is true Louis is supposed to be a tortured soul who always retains his human side,I'm not convinced that this is what Pitt brings to the part.I think he's rather over rated as an actor anyway,although he's not bad in comedy.For example I liked Burn after reading and his cameo in Friends.
What did you think of Tom Cruise? For me he was a revelation,I feel he steps out of his comfort zone to play Lestat and he did it beautifully.This film changed my opinion of Tom Cruise.
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shatteredbluedreams — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 06:22 PM)
Hello Shattered,
Hullo Dazed!
Although I am a fan of this film I do agree with you somewhat about Brad Pitt.
While it is true Louis is supposed to be a tortured soul who always retains his human side,I'm not convinced that this is what Pitt brings to the part.I think he's rather over rated as an actor anyway,although he's not bad in comedy.For example I liked Burn after reading and his cameo in Friends.
Haven't seen Burn After Reading except for the trailer. Friends that show was dire for me, and his appearance was no exception.
What did you think of Tom Cruise? For me he was a revelation,I feel he steps out of his comfort zone to play Lestat and he did it beautifully.This film changed my opinion of Tom Cruise.
I think the pageantry and mise-en-scene of this movie did a better job of hiding Cruise's limitations than any other movie he's made. He's a better actor than Pitt, but not by much.A couple I know are getting married
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— 10 years ago(March 28, 2016 06:59 AM)
Friends that show was dire for me, and his appearance was no exception.
I loved Friends but I wouldn't expect you to be a fan,it was aimed at the likes of me after all.Thirty something men probably not so much.
Courtney Cox face now though ugh.
He's a better actor than Pitt, but not by much.
I spat my tea out! I love how you write.Hope Strangelerbot doesn't see this.
I think both were unusual choices for this movie,I believe Anne Rice was quite unhappy with the idea of Tom Cruise playing Lestat but she changed her mind about that.She ought to have been more upset at Antonio Banderas playing what is supposed to be a cherubic looking 17 year old! In fairness I didn't know that until I read the books which was after seeing the film. He might have actually made a better Louis.
I didn't much care for Kirsten Dunst as Claudia either but then she's not a likable character.
I still like the film lots,the costumes,the glassware,Theatre des Vampires was an amazing set.
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shatteredbluedreams — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 11:21 PM)
I loved Friends but I wouldn't expect you to be a fan,it was aimed at the likes of me after all.Thirty something men probably not so much.
Courtney Cox face now though ugh.
Oi! I was 14 when Friends started! Mid-thirties I haven't even read my copy of Dorian Gray yet.
Agree about Cox. She was gorgeous and talented, but now she's a self-made ego monster.
I spat my tea out! I love how you write.Hope Strangelerbot doesn't see this.
He's busy outputting his next award-winning screenplay. Inputted from a novel written by a human, naturally.
I think both were unusual choices for this movie,I believe Anne Rice was quite unhappy with the idea of Tom Cruise playing Lestat but she changed her mind about that.She ought to have been more upset at Antonio Banderas playing what is supposed to be a cherubic looking 17 year old! In fairness I didn't know that until I read the books which was after seeing the film. He might have actually made a better Louis.
I didn't much care for Kirsten Dunst as Claudia either but then she's not a likable character.
I still like the film lots,the costumes,the glassware,Theatre des Vampires was an amazing set.
Tom Cruise looked really good with long hair I think. Suited him much better than his signature short style.
Antonio is a good actor, so he gets a pass. There are so many great actors in this world, so choosing to waste the lush trappings of this movie on a vapid model and a one-note megastar was such a waste.
Dunst can't act, I feel. Terrible throughout her career.
One day someone ought to make a truly mesmerising vampire movie. I'm still waiting. I might just have to do it myself. Yeah yeah rightA couple I know are getting married
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leBratPrincess — 9 years ago(April 03, 2016 12:38 PM)
Antonio is a good actor, so he gets a pass. , Tom Cruise looked really good with long hair I think.
THAT right there is what happens when you don't read all the source material and sit back and judge like you really know what you are talking about. Yes he is a good actor but no he does not get a pass for this performance. Just no and so many levels of no.
Neither does Cruise.
Banderas was a tad too old to be Armand, Cruise was just too ugly to be Lestat.
Yet you are entitled to have your opinion and no one else is?? How does that work.
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shatteredbluedreams — 9 years ago(April 04, 2016 02:46 AM)
Antonio is a good actor, so he gets a pass Tom Cruise looked really good with long hair I think.
THAT right there is what happens when you don't read all the source material and sit back and judge like you really know what you are talking about. Yes he is a good actor but no he does not get a pass for this performance. Just no and so many levels of no.
Neither does Cruise.
Banderas was a tad too old to be Armand, Cruise was just too ugly to be Lestat.
Yet you are entitled to have your opinion and no one else is?? How does that work.
The actors must be good. Antonio Banderas is a good actor, so his being a tad older than the book version of his character is forgivable. It would be ideal to have a cast of talented actors that all exactly resemble their book counterparts.
Tom Cruise doesn't get a pass. I already said he is a bad actor, but I was trying to be positive so I said he was perhaps at his best (or least worst) of his career in this movie. Also, for me he looked at his best too.
Cruise's looks are a matter of taste, not opinion. I'll show you again the difference between opinion and taste.
Tom Cruise had long hair in Interview with the Vampire. Fact, not opinion. (I assume it wasn't a wig or extensions, but even if it was, then he at least looked like he had long hair.)
I don't have an opinion on his long hair. My aesthetic taste means I think Cruise looked better in this movie with his long hair than he did in other movies with short hair. If you disliked his long hair, that's perfectly fine too.
There is room in this world for differing aesthetic taste. There is rarely room for differing opinions.
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leBratPrincess — 9 years ago(April 04, 2016 05:33 AM)
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Lestat is described as 22 I believe, violet blue eyes and long blond hair. Cruise had none of those features. None. Fact.
Banderas, a tad older. More like 25 years or so.
No-one is entitled to an opinion.
You have got to be joking
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shatteredbluedreams — 9 years ago(April 06, 2016 11:21 PM)
Cruise's looks are a matter of taste, not opinion. I'll show you again the difference between opinion and taste.
Lestat is described as 22 I believe, violet blue eyes and long blond hair. Cruise had none of those features. None. Fact.
Okay. I'm talking about Cruise being good looking. You're talking about Cruise looking appropriate for the part.
I've already said that Cruise was a poor choice simply cuz he's a bad actor. If he also looks wrong for the part, then he's doubly miscast.
No-one is entitled to an opinion. They must base their opinion on fact if it is to have any worth.
You have got to be joking
Do you think that people are entitled to baseless opinions? People can work for intelligent opinions if they want, but until a person understands something, or at least has made an honest effort to understand something, then they shouldn't voice an opinion on that subject or issue.A couple I know are getting married
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— 9 years ago(April 05, 2016 10:54 AM)
Oi! I was 14 when Friends started! Mid-thirties I haven't even read my copy of Dorian Gray yet.
My apologies I don't know what I was thinking,I knew you were in your 30's now because of a conversation we once had about Aaliyah.Even so at 14 it probably wasn't aimed at you.
I tried reading Dorian Gray,Frankenstein,Dracula,Lady Chatterley
Tom Cruise looked really good with long hair I think. Suited him much better than his signature short style.
You don't have to be nice about Tom Cruise,Angry Jams claims he asked you to go easy on me,that I'm sensitive and vulnerable,but trust me I'm not going to lose my beep if you disagree! To me he was surprisingly impressive as Lestat,I'd previously thought he was a novelty actor in the manner of Adam Sandler.Yes the long hair suited.
Antonio is a good actor, so he gets a pass.
Yes I like Antonio in fact the Theatre des Vampires segment is one of my favourite parts.
Dunst can't act, I feel. Terrible throughout her career.
I can't honestly say I remember seeing her in anything else.I suppose I have because Imdb says so,but she wasn't memorable for me.It's perhaps forgivable for a child actor.We once discussed the Harry Potter actors and how bad they were,are they still bad I wonder?
One day someone ought to make a truly mesmerising vampire movie. I'm still waiting.
You know what I'm going to say,Let the Right One In.
Have you watched Byzantium?
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shatteredbluedreams — 9 years ago(April 06, 2016 11:22 PM)
Oi! I was 14 when Friends started! Mid-thirties I haven't even read my copy of Dorian Gray yet.
My apologies I don't know what I was thinking,I knew you were in your 30's now because of a conversation we once had about Aaliyah.Even so at 14 it probably wasn't aimed at you.
I tried reading Dorian Gray,Frankenstein,Dracula,Lady Chatterley
My peers were into Friends. Was it aimed at girls more than guys? I don't know. I knew about the show in '94, but it didn't launch in Australia until '96, at which time the theme song became a chart hit. Weird.
You don't enjoy the classics? I haven't read any either.
You don't have to be nice about Tom Cruise,Angry Jams claims he asked you to go easy on me,that I'm sensitive and vulnerable,but trust me I'm not going to lose my beep if you disagree! To me he was surprisingly impressive as Lestat,I'd previously thought he was a novelty actor in the manner of Adam Sandler.Yes the long hair suited.
Angry Jams has proven to be an unreliable witness. I was just trying to be positive. When someone earnestly and positively replies, I don't like to respond with my default sledgehammer negativity. Luckily most people are usually neither earnest nor positive online!
You are sensitive, which can make you vulnerable. I think being sensitive is a good thing. It's not a word I use with a sneer.
I think Adam Sandler is a really good actor, and almost everything he did from Billy Madison through to Click is among my favourites. His latest movies are mostly unwatchable to me.
I can't honestly say I remember seeing [Dunst] in anything else.I suppose I have because Imdb says so,but she wasn't memorable for me.It's perhaps forgivable for a child actor.We once discussed the Harry Potter actors and how bad they were,are they still bad I wonder?
I've seen her in Jumanji, where she was neutral, The Virgin Suicides, where she was ruinous, and Spider-Man 3, where she was embarrassing. In the late 90s and early 2000s she was pushed hard in the media as a glamourous talented actor, when in reality she is neither. Technically she is glamourous cuz glamour is an illusion of beauty but that's just splitting hairs. The worst thing in her career that I know of is Melancholia. It's bad enough when these rich kids play artist in Hollywood, but when they infect indie films it's it's well, it is really really bad. Melancholia had such potential to be a brilliant movie, but the money is right there, greedy and narcissistic, despoiling the whole thing with her clumsy pumpkin head and soulless eyes.
Too much?
I haven't seen anything from Ron and Hermione lately, but I saw a scene from
Victor Frankenstein (2015)
recently where Harry plays Igor, the assistant to Dr Frankenstein. He's still an embarrassment.
One day someone ought to make a truly mesmerising vampire movie. I'm still waiting.
You know what I'm going to say,Let the Right One In.
Have you watched Byzantium?
I love Let The Right One In but it's a small and quirky tale. It only hints at the endless centuries of vampire life. I haven't seen Byzantium yet, but I've heard of it, and will see it eventually. Sorry, "eventually". Hmm, Jonny Lee Miller. Hopefully he's not in it much.A couple I know are getting married
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— 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 05:14 AM)
My peers were into Friends. Was it aimed at girls more than guys? I don't know
I don't know either I'm just assuming,most of the people I know who enjoyed it are female or gay.My observations are that tv watching habits are different now to the way I remember.For example my father only seemed to watch the news and weather,tge odd documentary and the Two Ronnies.Now most of the 30-50 something men that I know avidly watch soaps and the X factor,my father would have seen that as very strange.My daughter doesn't own a tv,although they occasionally watch something through their iPad and my son only watches stuff like Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad.
On a side note I'm off work at the moment and am addicted to an Australian show called Nothing to Declare.One of the things people smuggle (or try to smuggle) into Australia is food,that seems crazy! One couple had about 30 packets of microwave popcorn.One guy had a suitcase full of reptiles in socks,he was on his way to Thailand.Anyway I'm way off topic.
You don't enjoy the classics? I haven't read any either.
I love the stories of Frankenstein,Dracula and Dorian Gray but found them a challenge to read and gave up on all three.I've watched many versions of Dracula,the Gary Oldman version is greatapart from Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder who were both shocking.The black and white Dorian Gray is the best (I've forgotten how to do the link thing),it features a young and talented Angela Lansbury.The best Frankenstein was a 1992 tv movie with Patrick Bergin.
I've read some classics but if I'm honest most of them were a chore.
Angry Jams has proven to be an unreliable witness.
I felt that some of those guys were so busy trying to project a he-man image that they tied themselves up with lies and defensiveness.He also asked he_can't to go easy on you,beja and myself,not sure why.
I think Adam Sandler is a really good actor
I actually really liked Click,it was poignant! I do think he's a one trick pony but likeable.
I've seen her in Jumanji,
Ah yes of course Robin Williams being Robin Williams.I preferred the cartoon series Jumanji.
Melancholia had such potential to be a brilliant movie, but the money is right there, greedy and narcissistic, despoiling the whole thing with her clumsy pumpkin head and soulless eyes.
Too much?
I'd never heard of it,I kind of want to avoid it now! Her look reminds me of Gwyneth Paltrow,the media tell me she is hot but for the life of me I can't see it.I don't think I'd be able to pick either out in a crowd.
Do you know who Nigella Lawson is? I saw her once in London and the woman is stunningly beautiful she was incandescent!
He's still an embarrassment.
Daniel acts exactly like the local amateur dramatics actors who speak too loudly and enunciate and gesticulate too much.Emma Watson is worse.
I love Let The Right One In but it's a small and quirky tale. It only hints at the endless centuries of vampire life. I haven't seen Byzantium yet, but I've heard of it, and will see it eventually. Sorry, "eventually". Hmm, Jonny Lee Miller. Hopefully he's not in it much.
Yes Let the Right One In is first and foremost a horror story and a love story.
Anne Rice covers the perils of immortality in her books,vampires who go underground for centuries through boredom or self immolate.I loved reading The Vampire Chronicles and her Mayfair witches books,she created an amazing world which totally drew me in.I just hope one day it gets translated to screen.
Yay back on topic!
And even though you fool your souls
Your conscience will be mine,all mine