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Dean Keaton was kaiser Soze

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    denise1234 — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 12:38 PM)

    jbaddock^
    "Gabriel Byrne thought that he was playing the part of Soze until he saw the completed film."
    Yep.
    And, apparently he wasn't too pleased when he found that out
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      move_over_fatso — 10 years ago(January 02, 2016 08:48 PM)

      As much as I respect Byrne and his work, I do think the actor is being a chump about it. There's no proof Keaton died on that boat. The only tie to Keaton being shot & burned is Verbal Kint's testimony, which everyone should understand is a fabrication. The movie may had demonstrated Keaton dying in multiple segments, but the movie is presenting visuals of an unreliable narrator. Keaton may have actually been Kaiser Soze, successfully executed his target, and never got shot, and Kint is just following through with his end of their contract.
      And no, in the 1990's, they weren't going to get DNA evidence from a thoroughly barbequed corpse (but perhaps a convincing dental match).

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        Klockard23 — 10 years ago(November 18, 2015 12:07 AM)

        I think the movie made it pretty clear that Verbal was Keyser. The only other person who I'm even willing to accept culd be Keyser is "Kobayashi" (whatever his real name was), but it was most certainly not Keaton.

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          deathcreeper — 10 years ago(November 18, 2015 01:49 PM)

          I don't think it is Keaton. I do think there is room to argue it was Keaton though.
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            dominicd — 10 years ago(January 17, 2016 06:14 PM)

            seriously though, there is room to argue he was Soze

            • Hm. I think
              every picture tells a story
              , as the great Rod Stewart once sang. And to me there is no room
              watshisname
              wasn't from Turkey, or even Hungary?
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              no, Keaton was his cousin 😉
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              crouss — 10 years ago(January 23, 2016 08:54 PM)

              The opening scene of the movie shows what really happened and wasn't from Verbal's POV. Soze killed Keaton who made clear he recognized him.

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                dominicd — 10 years ago(January 26, 2016 02:16 PM)

                The opening scene of the movie shows what really happened and wasn't from Verbal's POV. Soze killed Keaton who made clear he recognized him.
                True. And of course, Verbal did weave a compelling account of what happened on the dock and ship, and that of his profound admiration for Keaton as though he were some sort of kin; of which was underscored by agent Kujan's utter dislike for him. Yet the killing of Keaton was important, as it secured a loose and final knot for
                Keyser Soze
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                  RugGuy — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 08:13 AM)

                  Not really since the director says Kint is Keyser.

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                    deathcreeper — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 12:36 PM)

                    I heard the two people behind the film had different views on who was Soze.
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                      RugGuy — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 03:19 PM)

                      I heard the two people behind the film had different views on who was Soze
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                      Who ate the two people you are referring to? Did you hear they said it or did you get the knowledge from the commentary or an interview?

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                        gottaluvafriend — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 09:50 PM)

                        No, there is no room to argue that Keaton is Soze. Watch it again. We know beyond doubt who Soze is at the end.

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                            gottaluvafriend — 9 years ago(October 17, 2016 03:32 AM)

                            I just noticed that you titled your post "Diane". Very cute.
                            If you're serious now and still think Dean Keaton is Soze then you need to watch the movie yet again because he isn't.

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