http://www.cottingleyconnect.org.uk/girlfairy.htm
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Hecate-3 — 19 years ago(September 20, 2006 07:32 PM)
An English country estate would certainly have a working fireplace, but I seem to recall that Elsie said something about disposing of the drawings in the beck. But she probably burned the scraps from the cutouts.
BTW, Elsie was 15 or 16 years old when the pictures were taken. She was not a small child. At the time, she was considered a young woman. Indeed, she had a job outside the home and drew a salary. IIRC, she had been working as an assistant in a photographer's studio. -
stevie-quinn — 19 years ago(November 20, 2006 01:04 PM)
I read a great article on this - I cannot recall where - it was many years ago, but there are some more photos that were found in an old box many years later. These show the hoax really as they were photos that were under or over-exposed by Elsie who had full access to the darkroom.
They were left lying with all the original literature etc. These are publish photographs - or have been at least once and as I say I've seen them.
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i_like_flapjacks — 19 years ago(April 28, 2006 09:51 AM)
Has anyone read the curious incident of the dog at nighttime by mark haddon? It said that Sir Arthut Conan Doyle (Author of Sherlock Holmes), wrote in an article how he believed it was true.
"Children - there's a time and place for ever thing, it's called college" - chef -
v_v_60 — 19 years ago(May 02, 2006 12:13 PM)
This was sooo interesting thankyou for for posting it. I can remember seeing one of the girls (very old lady}interviewed on Nationwide many many years ago when i was about thirteen always fascinated me, they asked her at the end of the interview if any of it was true and my mum turned it off quickly and said to my sister and me lets not find out some things are best left as a mystery!! I was miffed at the time but totally agree with her now.
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corimcd — 19 years ago(September 11, 2006 10:35 AM)
.Frances was born 1907 and following the fairy affair returned to South Africa. She always maintained that at least one of the photos was not fake. She died in 1986
Do you know , or does anyone know, which photo that would be??
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corimcd — 19 years ago(December 31, 2006 12:20 PM)
Sorry it took me so long to get back here.
thank you for answering my question nieko-ner.
That photo does look somewhat different compared to others.
I wonder why she said that one was real ?
This story really interests me. I hope to find some books
on the subject.
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SnowMoonFalling — 19 years ago(January 13, 2007 07:03 AM)
Although I'm fond of faeriesand like to believe in themI never thought the photos were real. The posted pictures, above, are very clear and I have to wonder how grown people would judge them as Real, even if a little unbalanced by grief. They are so obviously faked. You can't blame the girlsit would seem to me to have been a private thing that the adults ran away with. I always thought it made Conan-Doyle rather an a**.
Nevertheless I think this is a cute movie and one of the better ones for children.
"Blame is for God and small children."Louis Degas
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Horseman123 — 19 years ago(November 05, 2006 08:15 AM)
The photos are so obviously fake. I mean look at them. Why is it that all the faries are flat? They aren't three dimensional like the girls are. Even when you look at the faries closer you see a black dot from where the pin sticking out is. Why is it that none of these photos have faries behind her? Around her? Why are they always infront? You can tell this is a posing photograph. Just like when you pose for a picture everyone is in front. This was clearly set up. Why is it there is never more than one photo for each section? For example the one where there are fairies dancing infront of her. Why is there only one picture for that? It seems they only took one picture in a different area, planning it out. If these fairies were indeed moving and dancing around her there would be no problem taking numerous pictures. They clearly took time setting up things so they couldn't take as many pictures.
I mean for petes sake people look at the freaking paper cutouts. They are just horrible. The legs don't equal eachother. The arms are disproportionate to the body. In some of these pictures one foot is bigger than the other and when you look at the legs and wings they are rigid and not smooth.
And gosh their faces. I mean c'mon people, their faces are litterally dots. Some people may so oh it's because they are smaller so you can't really see. But if these were indeed people we would see alot more detail. I mean look at their faces! It's just black dots for shadow! And in one of the pictures the lady doesn't even have a mouth! -
ForeverMagicle — 19 years ago(March 17, 2007 12:11 PM)
I think it's very possible that they really did see fairies.
Maybe some of the photos were fakes because they just needed some sort of proof so that people would believe them. (It's also possible there not fakes)
And when one of the girls confessed that it was a hoax she could have just been pretending it was a hoax so that people would leave her alone.
And one of those photos looks very real to me.
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baileypinkrose — 19 years ago(March 18, 2007 04:41 AM)
I think what we had here were incredible young artists with great imaginations. I saw a painting that one of the girls did and it was full of detail, it was colorful and just amazing.
Not to say that fairies aren't real, though. I do have to say the one with the sunbath, the fairies do look 3 dementional. And that is the one the girl maintained was the only real picture. I guess you would only really know if you saw one yourself.
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heather_blus — 19 years ago(March 18, 2007 02:43 PM)
"I think it's very possible that they really did see fairies.
Maybe some of the photos were fakes because they just needed some sort of proof so that people would believe them. (It's also possible there not fakes)
And when one of the girls confessed that it was a hoax she could have just been pretending it was a hoax so that people would leave her alone.
And one of those photos looks very real to me.
I don't know about all of you, but that's what I think. "
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heather_blus — 18 years ago(May 01, 2007 04:40 PM)
"I wasn't asking your opinion.
I'm not judging you by what you think, so don't judge me."
I have a right to my opinion, and I think anyone who believes in fairies is not playing with a full deck. By the way, Elsie never claimed to see fairies. Do you still believe now that she did even though she admits she didn't? If so, then that's saaaaaaaaaad. -
puirt-a-beul — 18 years ago(June 01, 2007 07:18 AM)
Yeah,
heather_blus
, you've got a right to your opinion, but remember it's just that: your opinion. It's not automatically superior judgement, and it's not automatically the truth.
You seem pretty aggressive and condescending here. Perhaps it's
you
who needs psychiatric help ?
Regarding fairies: I can conceive of such a thing existing, but that doesn't mean I actively
believe
.
My own take on the photos is that they're constructed. Fake, in other words. They look like two girls got creative with their hobbies of drawing and photography, and produced something they expected their parents to find pleasing or endearing, but that it all got out of hand and blown out of proportion. It must have just got harder and harder to 'fess up, and I can imagine it became something of a quiet embarrassment to the women as the years passed.
I was amused by the reference on the website to the sun-bath photo, that pointed out the "magnetic bath" (what?!??) feature as being something fairies supposedly actually do but that the girls wouldn't have known about when they made the shot, as if that unproven assertion somehow authenticates the picture. So I want to know: who's the alleged "authority" that says this is real-world fairy behaviour, and what's the source of their own "knowledge" other than this very picture, I mean. -
heather_blus — 17 years ago(November 29, 2008 03:57 PM)
"You seem pretty aggressive and condescending here. Perhaps it's you who needs psychiatric help ?"
Nope, I just calls ems as I sees em.
Funny how you say this, yet you yourself take the time to reply. Hmmm.