The shower scene
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CaptainSexMachine — 19 years ago(May 29, 2006 06:28 PM)
In the scene where she's taking a shower and the Master Chief comes in.. Did I understand correctly its that's perfectly OK with her to have him watch her? She doesn't even seem surprised. I just thought that was unnatural, what kind of female marine would be like that?
I'm just confused.. I saw this movie on TV, so they may have cut out a few seconds.. -
blackcarlover — 19 years ago(May 30, 2006 04:04 AM)
I think, given the fact she has been around blokes for years while working in the Navy, she has become a tough woman physically and mentally working with and against them. so in my opinion, being given that task to do with the Marines, at the point she has her hair shaved off, etc, she will prob have become 'one of the lads' because as she said - she didnt want to be treated any different - so his presence while she is naked would def not affect her, otherwise it would have shown a vulnerable side if she had have, esp at that point in the movie.
Basically, how she feels about the Master Chief, she wouldnt really give a sh*t him seeing her naked. her determination to see the training through is more important.
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blackcarlover — 19 years ago(May 30, 2006 08:55 AM)
I mean, okay, so the Chief had a guy have timetables for her and them to shower seperately, but what I mean is vulnerability from an 'embarrassed he is seeing/saw her naked' point of view for her to quickly try and cover herself - certainly my view anyhow.
she does not fear him.
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tommykins-1 — 19 years ago(July 04, 2006 12:22 PM)
But wasn't the point of the scene that she couldn't show (by cringing or trying to cover herself with her hands) that she was afraid or embarrassed by the Chief's presence.
Of course she didn't like it, but showing weakness in this way would weaken her position and strengthen the position of people who felt that women were "too weak" to be a SEAL. The Chief knew this. He deliberately was trying to intimidate her and test her (again).
He could have waited until she came out of the shower with a towel. But he wouldn't have waited if it had been a male trainee, so (since she insisted on being treated like the other trainees, "no better and no worse"), he didn't (and shouldn't) show her that consideration.
She did her best to try and show that it didn't intimidate her, and was successful in holding her difficult position as "just another trainee."
For those of you how haven't gone through this type of selection training, it's impossible to complete the course without help and support from your fellow trainees. The course is set up that way. O'Neill knew this, and that's why she refused the "special consideration" and requested that she be allowed to go through the training "just like the other trainees."
When she convinced the other trainees (in SERE training) that she could take it, and convinced the instructors she could not only take it, but lead, she finally had gotten to the real position of "just another trainee."
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batgrlforever — 19 years ago(July 07, 2006 09:02 AM)
Good points Tommykins-1. I actually wondered about that scene too because I would have been wierded out.then again since it was Viggo then I wouldn't mind showing off the goods.
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tommykins-1 — 19 years ago(July 07, 2006 11:37 PM)
Yeah, he was charming, wasn't he. But it's nice to have a woman verify what I assumed (about his charisma as the Chief).
But in the real world, the Chief would just be some muscle-bound thug who was making your (her) life hell. That's what she had to deal with.
"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move
bodies
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whitespirit26 — 19 years ago(July 26, 2006 06:04 PM)
Cute as Viggo is, he had no right to show her that disrespect; there are other ways of "testing" trainees. If I were in her position, I would've tried to turn away from him without appearing "weak", but I wouldn't have showed off "the goods". If it wouldn't have gotten me kicked out of the military, I would have said something along the lines of "So is this how you get your sex gratification, by peeping at the trainees? I wonder if the men like that".