( Question to all Males :)
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dwc_cherry — 11 years ago(April 22, 2014 07:54 PM)
Yes, but I thought Dominique Swain was 17 at the time, I was wondering why on earth the movie was considered controversial (teenage sexuality is not inherently controversial to me, it is only in recent history that an adult having consensual sex with a 14yr old is considered "wrong" or retardedly referred to as "paedophilia" fyi it is not even "hebephilia", "philia" implies preference), however I then found out she was 15yrs old at the time and completely understood why it would be considered somewhat controversial, I then proceeded to watch the movie again with my pants downlol just kidding.
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Saemilin — 11 years ago(April 23, 2014 10:05 AM)
Clearly, Lolita is stunning in this movie. Physically, she's a long limbed nubile and proportioned specimen. The scenes where she plays the innocent siren are definitely meant to cause arousal. Having said that, I should also add that this movie is rated 18+, i think, not just because of the sex, but also because you need to be more mature to interpret it's intent. If a child watches this, its about 2 people riding a car for a while and the kissing and the sex depicted is nothing but softcore porn. To an adult, the slight touch and the hidden glances are what tells the story of Humbert's angst. If one cannot empathize with Irons during those scenes, I believe the movie and it's intentions are lost.
I'm sure there are as many women who swooned over an older, handsome Irons, in his role as an easily flustered tortured soul, obsessing over a girl; as there were men who just thought this was supposed to be some old playboy porno. -
Saemilin — 11 years ago(September 17, 2014 04:50 PM)
I actually think the author doesnt really know how a paedophile thinks. He is describing how a paedophile tHinks from the reasoning of a healthy non deviant mind.
Similar to how guys tell their daughters and gfs to not dress too revealing when they go out in public they dont know how rapists think, but they can only guess based on what normal guys are attracted to. -
scndform — 11 years ago(September 18, 2014 04:30 PM)
Nabokov did a lot of research about sex offenders while writing Lolita. It has also been long rumored, but never verified that Nabokov was sexually molested by his uncle when he was an adolescent boy. If this is true then he could, indeed, have had personal insight into how a predator thinks and acts.
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up_down84 — 11 years ago(November 01, 2014 06:15 AM)
You don't understand why it's wrong for an adult to have sex with a 14yr old.Well that's extremely worrying.
Well 14 year olds are adults as they have sexually matured, adulthood begins at puberty and in many countries it is legal to have sex at 14 and younger. -
Daimaju — 10 years ago(September 11, 2015 03:06 PM)
It is amazing just how many people do not understand what pedophilia actually is, yet they go on some holy moral crusade, condemning those who felt aroused in some scenes.
Most of those people probably were aroused too, but would never admit it, thinking it is wrong - which it isn't, but explaining this to moralists that bathe in double standards is pointless, no matter how simple the explanation is.
Still, so no one can say I would not have tried let's do this:
Pedophilia:
Sexual feelings directed towards
children
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Children:
Young human beings below the age of
puberty
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Puberty:
Puberty is the process of physical changes through which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction to enable fertilization.
Now, girls are usually done with puberty around the age of 14/15.
To put it bluntly: To be sexually interested in a 15yo girl is biologically totally normal and simply what nature intended.
Why is this the case?
Simple. By instinct, men look for young women since they are perfectly healthy and offer the greatest chances to deliver a healthy child. That is all their is to it, it isn't rocket science.
So, stop accusing people who felt their dick move in one scene or the other of being pedophiles - cause they are not.
You are just ill-educated to think so.
And yes, some scenes totally aroused me.
Saw this movie when I was a teenage boy myself though. -
SheLeppie — 10 years ago(September 12, 2015 04:27 PM)
Why don't you do a little research into the long term effects of paedophilia/ephebophilia on the child victims before you rant at those who are sickened and horrified by these relationships. The child is always a victim, because the adult has the power in the relationship. He was paying her for sex - prostituting her, and at the age of 14, her personality/character is still being formed. So that's gonna have a lifelong, detrimental impact on her.
I work as a counsellor so I've worked with alot of people who were raped as children/teens and I know the horrific lifelong effects this has on them - it never goes away. So yes, adults should never take advantage of children, even if their bodies are starting to mature. It's completely selfish and wrong, as Hump knew it was in the book/movie, and there's good reason it's such a taboo.
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tremblaylm — 9 years ago(April 22, 2016 01:44 PM)
I think the previous poster was merely talking about arousal, not actual sex or rape or prostitution. Being aroused by post-puberty 15-16 year old girls is perfectly normal. Actually sleeping with them (if age difference is too big) is a different story. Being aroused
only
by 15-16 year old girls would probably be classified as ephebophilia, which is problematic if acted upon, depending on age of course. -
mimsies — 10 years ago(November 04, 2015 12:40 AM)
14/15 year old girls do NOT have adult bodies (and certainly not brains or minds. Nor are the DONE with puberty at 14/15, but are still in the midst of it (many, not most, but many haven't even started their periods yet). NOR do they stand a good chance of healthy offspring, because their bodies are not yet mature, and they are, in fact, MORE likely to have serious complications that adversely effect their health and that of their babies.
But hey, other than being just completely wrong you bring up great points. -
Daimaju — 10 years ago(November 26, 2015 05:53 AM)
You don't have to believe me - but simply saying "you're wrong!" without delivering any sort of argument except sounding like a typical "rape culture prophet" who ignores biological and scientific facts because they make him/her feel uncomfortable.
There is only
the
truth.
Your opinion =/= truth.
And all one needs to know about this topic is easily found online with multiple sources to back it up.
Educate yourself, for your own sake. -
lazarillo — 10 years ago(June 19, 2015 12:21 PM)
Like most normal adult males, I find 20-year-old girls very sexually attractive, 10-year-old girls not sexually attractive in the slightest, and 15-year-old girls somewhere in between depending on how physically mature they are.
If you ask any male how old is first sexual partner was, they will probably be under 18 at least half the time, so it's plain stupid to feel you have to go around as an adult thinking all teenage girls under 18 are unattractive and "disgusting".
Of course, you shouldn't sleep with 14-year-old girls if you're 40. You probably shouldn't do a LOT of things in real-life that you see in movies or books. But why do people worry so much about people imitating Humbert Humbert as opposed to Hannibal Lecter? Sex with teenagers is much more common than serial murder, but it's also not as horrible. But the point is if you don't ALREADY want to do something, watching a movie about it isn't going to push you over the edge.
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