I still don't get it
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herbsuperb — 11 years ago(December 24, 2014 02:42 AM)
Can you explain to me why people hate this movie so much?
The title of the movie was 'Godzilla', but ABSOLUTELY nothing about the film was 'Godzilla'. It was popcorn fluff masquerading as 'Godzilla' to lure people into the theaters. The hatred stems from disappointment. We bought tickets expecting 'Godzilla' and got a supreme pile of useless, meaningless crap instead. Same thing happened with 'Resident Evil', which is why so many hate those ****ty films. If you are going to name your movie after a well established, and much beloved character, you'd better respect that character. GINO did not. That's the explanation. -
herbsuperb — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 04:44 PM)
Oh. Well, considering the mediocre reviews and mixed opinions, maybe he shouldn't have. Just like GINO. Terrible idea. Apparently the movie made virtually no profit. But I must ask, what is your point? GINO still sucked. But it made money because people wanted to see Godzilla. They didn't get to, but they'd already paid their money. That's why people hate that movie. That's also why there was never a sequel. Nobody was going to fall for that bull**** move again.
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megafauna005 — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 08:22 PM)
Godzilla 2014 fans are idiots who prefer the look of a man in a fat suit as opposed to a REAL looking monster like in Godzilla 98!
It just shows "original" Godzilla fans are MORONS living in the 1950s!
Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH! -
benGsboat — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 09:04 PM)
Godzilla 2014 fans are idiots who prefer the look of a man in a fat suit
Godzilla 98 looks better than a man in a fat suit any day!
this 2014 disaster looked like a man in a fat rubber suit!
this Godzilla looks like a REAL lizard and not a man in a fat rubber suit like Godzooky 2014.
Godzilla 2014 SUCKED in every way and looked like a man in a fat rubber suit.
the 2014 version still looks like a man in a fat suit!
The 98 film is a ZILLION times better than this garbage where Godzilla still looks like a man in a fat suit!
Godzilla 98 looks real while the "original" Godzilla still looks like a man in a fat suit!
unlike the 2014 version where he was mostly absentand looked like a fat man in a suit!
Believe it or not, these quotes are since January of this year. One can only guess how many times you've made the 'fat suit' comment since
last May
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herbsuperb — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 09:13 PM)
You are one troubled individual, megafauna.
Indeed. What's with that? I've never seen anybody try to defend such a terrible movie with such great vigor. Nothing wrong with liking bad movies. There's some bad movies that I enjoy more than most. But I would never getting into routine pissing matches with others over their merits. That's just dumb.
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benGsboat — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 07:42 AM)
Sure, expressing your opinion about something (good or bad) is one thing, but megafool repeats himself in post after post. Just look at some of his rants about religion, or Jimmy Fallon, or Dallas 2012. I used to find them amusing, now they're just embarrassing.
It's quite possible that he (or she, I don't know) is experiencing the early signs of dementia.
Now, I expect to get a reply something like "NO ben, it is YOU who is demented! EVERYONE knows the new Godzilla" -
herbsuperb — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 09:04 PM)
There were a few Godzilla films that would surely rank among the worst movies of all times. But every one of them had more heart and more style than that piece of crap '98 thing.
That being said, even you could not deny the 1954 film its rightful status as a classic piece of cinema. That guy in the suit told a FAR better story than that CGI-GINO thing EVER could. -
Dreamcatcher9000 — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 11:17 PM)
herbsuperb
There is a guy on You Tube making reviews about video games, movies, and other things. He's a huge Godzilla fan, and has watched all the Godzilla movies, and made short reviews for each one of them.
I have watched entirely only a couple of the old Japanese movies, I don't remember much, but anyway, I watched some of this guy's reviews, which are accompanied by the movies' full trailers.
I'll take an example, "Godzilla's Revenge".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe9v1jsN7Tg&index=10&list=PL90 ECE0E5578B6A60
I don't have to watch the whole movie. This review and trailer cover me 100%. I'm sure that you reckon this movie as "surely rank among the worst movies of all times", as you say. But still, you say that every one of them, so even this one, has more heart and STYLE than the '98 piece of crap thing.
So, if you, and every other hardcore Godzilla fan say that this movie is better than Godzilla '98, then we'll never be able to communicate. We're talking about different movie mentality here. For me, Godzilla '98, was at the worst case, a mediocre disaster movie. "Godzilla's Revenge" is an ultimate ridiculous cheap movie for kids of that era (because of course, no kid would ever watch this now). And someone could very easily say that it's trash, but I don't want to be very offending. And that's the difference.
In a nutshell, we agree on something. There is no comparison between Godzilla '98 and Godzilla '14 with most (if not all) the old Japanese movies. It's like comparing "Jurassic Park" with "The Land Before Time" (both good movies, by the way).
And closing, I haven't seen the first 1954 Godzilla movie, but I'm sure it will be good (as a movie, because that's what I care about, to be a good movie above all), a classic, easily comparable to the Ray Harryhausen American monster movies, and aesthetically unrelated to the countless subsequently Japanese sequels. -
herbsuperb — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 05:26 AM)
Yeah. That's James Rolfe. Cinemassacre. AVGN. James and Mike Monday's and all that. He's a big Godzilla fan, and his disdain and disappointment with the '98 Godzilla film comes across loud and clear.
'Godzilla's Revenge' was not a good movie. But it did have some campy qualities that make it memorable. A bit of spark. Style. Uniqueness. GINO had none of that. It was CGI crap with no soul. There are intangible qualities in it that are difficult to put into words, but are apparent to those watching the film. Especially kids. Many have a nostalgic love for Godzilla's Revenge, while still acknowledging its many flaws.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=campy
Might be the best word to describe the difference between films like Godzilla's Revenge and GINO. A campy film can be bad, and still be loved. GINO was just bad, with no redeeming qualities. It was a cheap, poorly crafted Jurassic Park ripoff that took NOTHING from Godzilla except for the name, and that was purely for marquee value. It got Godzilla fans really excited, and then let them down horribly.
To quote James Rolfe "It's not a real Godzilla movie".
Anyway. Check out the 'Godzillathon' reviews James did a few years back. Fun to watch in and of themselves, and an interesting look at REAL Godzilla films from an honest fan.
GINO (RT): 16%
Godzilla's Revenge (RT): 29%
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Dreamcatcher9000 — 11 years ago(March 20, 2015 05:35 PM)
"Check out the 'Godzillathon' reviews James did a few years back."
I have, dude. I sent you one of them in the previous message!
You know what? I'm not a Godzilla fan. So, I guess my opinion doesn't really matter. I just enjoyed both American versions as fun movies. And besides the 1954 movie, I really doubt I'll watch anything else. I have only one life, you know, and I have to spend time with care! -
megafauna005 — 11 years ago(March 20, 2015 09:08 PM)
WRONG Ben as always! You are the crackpot for believing in a fairytale and I'm not talking about Gilligan's Island or Godzilla!
Many people on this board prefer the 98 Godzilla because he looks like a real monster and not a man in a fat rubber suit!
Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH! -
herbsuperb — 11 years ago(March 20, 2015 09:49 PM)
Many people on this board prefer the 98 Godzilla because he looks like a real monster and not a man in a fat rubber suit!
No it didn't. It looked like a computer generated, non-real, popcorn critter. The guy in the suit was FAR more effective. When combined with excellent set pieces and fantastic camera work, the original 1954 Godzilla looked terrifying. Music was very effective as well. Gino had none of that good stuff. It was just crap.