Harsh on Percy?
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k_tito_trinidad — 12 years ago(October 31, 2013 01:18 PM)
Yes he was very sadistic in the film sabatoged dell's execution but did he deserve to be turned into a vegetable?
Remember that dell more than likely did something awfull to be on death row but we just see this quiet gentle man were supposed to feel sorry for
Again Percy is portrayed a real scumbag but as far as we know he hasent killed/raped anyone he just seems to have abit of a fetish in seeing these scumbags on death row really suffer, and personally I actually take that stance than the ones the guards have in being pally pally with the death row scum -
k_tito_trinidad — 12 years ago(November 05, 2013 06:02 AM)
He was portrayed as sick dude, guy gt his kicks from watching the prisoners suffer but I ask is that so bad that he was punished the way he was? I mean deep down he was really a coward ( the scene where wild bill attacks the 2 guards) Percy just freezes up and watches because he's terrified and Evan the sabotage execution he looks horrified realising what he's done
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eddiewinehosen — 12 years ago(March 21, 2014 07:58 PM)
Well JC feels things about people and as he said "I punished the bad men" indicating that Percy even though he hadn't committed a crime was through and through evil just as Wild Bill.
Yes Percy was a coward deep down but that's what many bullies are and he was a true bully doing things out of spite and enjoying it. -
MonoEnojado — 11 years ago(September 06, 2014 10:14 PM)
Percy wanted to make Del pay for laughing at him when he pissed his pants. Percy was a really bad dude. I mean, he certainlt didn't expect to create such a mess by not putting the sponge on Del's head, but he knew he would suffer more if he didn't. Also, remember he stepped on Mr Jingles and he broke Del's fingers at the beginning of the film. Also, on the book he's even more despicable.
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holatKolnoa — 1 year ago(December 20, 2024 05:05 PM)
"he knew he would suffer more if he didn't"? He'd suffer more if he
didn't
wet the sponge? I don't understand. Can you explain?
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andlovesaidnohim — 12 years ago(November 12, 2013 05:30 AM)
I think Percy knew something would happen to Del to make him suffer more but he was essentially a coward and the reality of it actually happening in front of him was too much to bear.
He was a nasty person who was simply sadistic and felt no remorse for his actions. Del did and John said "you can't hide what's in your heart" and a very clear view of Percy's character came when he begged the other guards not to put him in a cell with Bill (who implied he wanted to rape him) as punishment and the other guards quickly realized he only said that because that it what he would have to them had the shoe been on the other foot.
I also don't know whether John planned for Percy to become a vegetable or whether insanity was a side-effect of whatever John did which I would guess was to show exactly what Bill did from the perspective of the Detterick girls. -
BrianZKing-1 — 12 years ago(November 17, 2013 02:12 AM)
Del was far worse than Percy. Del raped and murdered a six year old girl, and set her building on fire to cover it up, killing half a dozen other people.
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BrianZKing-1 — 12 years ago(December 01, 2013 05:52 PM)
Ah, here we are:
He had raped a young girl and killed her, and had then dropped her body behind the apartment house where she lived, doused it with coal-oil, and then set it on fire, hoping in some muddled way to dispose of the evidence of his crime. The fire had spread to the building itself, had engulfed it, and six more people had died, two of them children.
(pg. 16)
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WendingWanderer — 11 years ago(August 07, 2014 08:25 PM)
In the book, John is almost like an idiot-savant.
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In the book, John couldn't read, couldn't tie his own shoe, and seemed to have very little intelligence. He didn't remember what had happened with the little girls until he touched Wild Bill and "read" it from him.
There seems to be a force that flows through him, letting him "hear" what's going on inside the people around him (without really understanding it), know who is hurting, how to help.
John seems to be almost pure empathy, with very little intellect.
I highly doubt he had the intelligence to plan to take the illness from the woman, hold it inside himself (at considerable pain to himself), and give it to Percy. It's more like he was led to do it by the force that flowed through him and used him. -
bradleyluke79 — 12 years ago(November 26, 2013 10:05 AM)
I understand where you're coming from. Percy is violent and sadistic towards prisoners who have done despicable things so maybe they deserve it. And they do. But this wasn't Percy's way of punishing them for what they'd done. Percy just wanted to make them suffer. He showed no remorse, no empathy, no sympathy and was just a terrible person. Whereas with Delacroix for example, he committed a horrible crime, but while on the mile he showed a sensitive kind to him, this was something Percy lacked, Percy was just and all round terrible person. The fact that Delacroix had slight happiness annoyed him, so he crushed Delacroix's only friend and last piece of happiness before he killed Delacroix in the most inhumane way possible.
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bradleyluke79 — 12 years ago(November 26, 2013 10:07 AM)
I understand where you're coming from. Percy is violent and sadistic towards prisoners who have done despicable things so maybe they deserve it. And they do. But this wasn't Percy's way of punishing them for what they'd done. Percy just wanted to make them suffer. He showed no remorse, no empathy, no sympathy and was just a terrible person. Whereas with Delacroix for example, he committed a horrible crime, but while on the mile he showed a sensitive kind to him, this was something Percy lacked, Percy was just and all round terrible person. The fact that Delacroix had slight happiness annoyed him, so he crushed Delacroix's only friend and last piece of happiness before he killed Delacroix in the most inhumane way possible.
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rachel-wyyung-1 — 12 years ago(January 10, 2014 07:12 PM)
Personally I think education makes a difference also. Del killed so if course he was bad, but after all people like him obviously shows they had no education no good upbringing. Thus some of them made poor choices in life. However, Percy had connections and he certainly didn't look like he was from poor family background, he was educated and yet he still developed such ruthless and sick personalities made him a real scumbag.
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strntz — 12 years ago(January 19, 2014 08:15 AM)
Personally I think education makes a difference also. Del killed so if course he was bad, but after all people like him obviously shows they had no education no good upbringing.
Good point. Some people are born rotten (Percy), and others have never been shown love or taught right from wrong.
One thing that Del said that was very telling was when, right before his execution, he told Paul, Brutal, Dean, and Harry that they good men, and he wished he had known them earlier in his life. Had he grown up around better types of men, his life may have taken a whole different course. I didn't read the book, but Del on film was clearly remorseful of what he had done.
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CartmanRocks — 12 years ago(January 11, 2014 03:35 PM)
The prisoners were rapists and murderers, but the sweet little mouse was not. Anyone who steps on a poor little mouse on purpose doesn't deserve to live, in my opinion.
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Dinosaw — 12 years ago(February 13, 2014 12:53 AM)
Yes he was very sadistic in the film sabatoged dell's execution but did he deserve to be turned into a vegetable?
I think he rightfully deserved that - it was far from cruel. I mean, did he die? No. Was he in living in pain? Didn't look like it - he seemed more like chilled afterwards.
And if that had not happened, he would've been in prison - which is a worse punishment than being in mental facility I say, no? Oh, in prison for killing a cold blooded murderer!
I actually thought that the prison guards were more 'harsh' on Percy - When Percy was talking scornfully to the dead body, I didn't see why Brute had to be a 'white knight' on Percy by telling him off (you hypocrite, you were also involved at executing him).
Percy was overall bratty. But the guards seemed overly harsh on him, considering that he was only assaulting prisoners on death row rather than innocent hospital patients. They should've thought about that a little.
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