Why this lost the Best Picture Oscar.
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archmaker1 — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 01:24 AM)
And Weinstein threw a million TV adds touting the movie as the most joyful and entertaining experience anyone could ever have anywhere! A brilliant way to appeal to both average movie goers and snobs. This allowed all the industry wives who really do the voting to pat themselves on the back for rewarding "art" over commerce. There has never been an ad blitz like that before or since and I think you're right, they realized they'd been had. SiL is a fine movie, but SPR was a landmark film, technically and emotionally, and should have won.
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joed1667 — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 04:27 PM)
All I know is that ever since SPR lost to SiL, I have never watched the Oscars again. I felt that this was politics. Hollywood is not fond of war movies even though a few have won over the years for Best Picture, like Platoon and Patton, and they are not fond of Steven Speilberg either who has received many of snubs. He's received several Oscars but no where near what he deserves otherwise it would be even more blatantly obvious.
As for SPR, here you had a movie in which after it ended and people walked out, young people were coming up to the elderly and thanking them for what their generation did. It also got many veterans to finally open up and talk about what was bottled up inside them for decades. Very few movies have had that kind of impact on people.
I personally give those voting on the Oscars as much credibility as the powers to be who decide who gets a star. I read more about that after Martin Milner passed away, that he does not have a star and it was more about politics and money and despite having several highly successful TV shows and a long career in television and movies, he didn't fit the mold. A family man who was happily married to only one women in his life since 1957 I believe. -
justanicknamed — 10 years ago(January 08, 2016 06:59 AM)
All I know is that ever since SPR lost to SiL, I have never watched the Oscars again.
For years, I've questioned the intelligence/sanity of people who were not directly involved, or had some actual connection to the entertainment industry. Meaning, if you are working in the industry, or aspire to be an actor/makeup artist/costume designer, or you are close to someone who is in the industry - then it is understandable to be enthused by the award shows.
Otherwise, I don't get being so excited about an industry which fluffs themselves so much and "awards" themselves so much.
Especially when time and time again they award a show which not only did few people ever hear of, but in 5 years won't be watched again. -
joed1667 — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 04:57 AM)
"For years, I've questioned the intelligence/sanity of people who were not directly involved, or had some actual connection to the entertainment industry. Meaning, if you are working in the industry, or aspire to be an actor/makeup artist/costume designer, or you are close to someone who is in the industry - then it is understandable to be enthused by the award shows. "
So I guess then that you are not a sports fan either and don't get all excited about a certain team(s)? I mean, if you aren't directly involved in that sport and just as fan..going by your analogy! -
justanicknamed — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 11:58 AM)
So I guess then that you are not a sports fan either and don't get all excited about a certain team(s)? I mean, if you aren't directly involved in that sport and just as fan..going by your analogy!
For years, I've questioned the intelligence/sanity of people who were not directly involved,
or had some actual connection
to the entertainment industry.
Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits, is it? -
joed1667 — 10 years ago(January 13, 2016 07:06 AM)
"Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits, is it?"
I comprehend you real well and what I have to say about it would get me kicked off IMDB because that response is just plain idiotic! We are the fans, the ones who pay money that keeps the entertainment industry in business so TS if we can't offer an opinion! -
justanicknamed — 10 years ago(January 13, 2016 04:55 PM)
what I have to say about it would get me kicked off IMDB
Please say it then, we could use less ones like you.
I get being fans, I just don't get being all that wrapped up in it. I ESPECIALLY don't get it when you get so wrapped up in the stupidity that is Hollywierd.
Seriously, no other "industry" masturbates itself so much to itself as Hollwierd does - how many frigging awards shows are there? Hell, you can win an Emmy for the Oscar show.
I just am saddened at how pathetic peoples lives are that they have Oscar parties and actually give a sh!t about who wins. It is extra sad when most of the times the movies that are nominated are ones most people haven't heard of, and in five years no one will ever watch again.
I never said you couldn't offer an opinion. It is just laughable that people throw hissy fits over who wins and loses an award when the judging system isn't just subjective, but political as well. -
coolbrett — 10 years ago(January 12, 2016 11:04 AM)
You may be right about the writing of it. If it wasn't so well directed and acted, it would just be a shoot-em-up, bloodbath WWII movie aimed at teenagers. But Spielberg put so much into it that it became the most realistic depiction of World War II in movies, and it was a way of honouring what the vets went through. So I think it very much deserved the best director Oscar, but I can see why they didn't choose to award it best picture.
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coolbrett — 9 years ago(April 08, 2016 05:47 AM)
It isn't his flashback. It was just showing one scene from when Ryan was an old man and then the WWII story begins. But yeah it is confusing cos it sets it up as if it is his flashback, and Tom Hanks is his younger self. But then he becomes Matt Damon by the end haha. They should have set that up differently.
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xmonn — 9 years ago(May 27, 2016 01:23 PM)
I have to say I have a bias towards SPR. I think it's the greatest war movie ever made.
That said I thought SIL sucked. I tried watching it three times and only hated it more with each viewing. It's one of the most overrated Best Picture winners ever. -
generationofswine — 9 years ago(June 09, 2016 08:35 PM)
No complexity? You're kidding me. Saving Private Ryan is the best pro-soldier/anti-war movie ever made. It walks that thin red line better than it's WWII rival could ever dream of.
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