Just watched Force Awakens, and don't see how it is 2.2 points higher
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seanericmathews — 10 years ago(December 31, 2015 10:40 AM)
I too watched it again for the first time in over a decade. And it was just as bad now as it was then. It is an abomination.
Two headed NASCAR alien commentator.
That is all.
Really though Lucas relied too much on CGI and catering to all a different audience. He lost touch with what made the originals so great.
Yeah, TFA wasn't perfect. And yeah, they might have been playing to the fans. But Ill take that over the tripe that Lucas gave us in the prequels. You can take your trade federation and shove it. -
soundoflight — 10 years ago(December 29, 2015 09:54 PM)
I could relate to the Jedis In fact, those are are probably the only two characters in the entire prequel trilogy that are relatable, both played by excellent actors. Liam Neeson's Jedi character was quite likable, and you care when he dies. And note that he dies in such a way that it's a bit gut wrenching.
Compare this to the force awakens where Han Solo is killed in such a cheap way you don't really feel anything.
Darth Maul was a decent villain. At least he retained an aura of mystery and evil about him.
Imagine if Darth Maul took off his "mask" and a 16 year old nerd was underneath. It would completely ruin the effect.
That's what The Force Awakens gave us.And as you mention, the score was gripping. Nothing of the sort came out of The Force Awakens.
Overall, I think the duel with Darth Maul is the best thing the prequel trilogy produced, and is better than anything found in The Force Awakens as well. -
AlGranthamMusic — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 01:30 AM)
Just finished re-watching the entire prequels trilogy, and was so much more impressed with it than I remember. The Darth Maul duel in the Phantom Menace definitely stands out as a great scene. In fact I would consider it one of the most memorable across the entire prequel trilogy. Nothing much happens in Attack of the clones, but there's some excellent stuff in Revenge of the Sith.
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alexcregan1998 — 10 years ago(January 02, 2016 04:46 AM)
God you're so wrong it's a bit laughable. How can you not see the wide Valley separating The Phantom Menace and The Force Awakens in Quality? The onky thing I can think of that The Phantom Menace has above The Force Awakens is it's Film Score, even though I love Rey's Theme and every time it comes up it gives me goosebumps,the rest was very forgettable indeed. The Phantom Menace on the other hand I seem to know every single track, probably because of my obsession with Battlefront 2 as a younger child
So there you go, the Original Score for The Phantom Menace that's the only thing I'd give it over The Force Awakens. -
apriloish — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 01:43 PM)
I recently watched rogue one an have now scene every film in the franchise im fine with what ever film someone prefers but i have to be honest the force awakens not perfect but is miles better then phantom meance.Heres my opinion of these films star wars is a great fantasy space film empire strikes back is a masterpiece an easily the best return of the jedi is a great ending suffers from to much repeat of the other two but is a great finale none the less the prequels phantom meance is easily the worst star wars film its crap attack of the clones is ok its a ok action film its a time waster not bad just ok the actor playing vader is ok because vader is simply a teen so he has to whiny a bit the problem is to much cgi an the love scenes are so bad written. Revenge of the sith again not great but pretty good an easily the best prequel i like this one.Force awakens is a great sequel that set up the new trilogy suffers from to much of a retread but the action is great an its harrison fords best performance rogue one is really good but the story is bland an the main character weak.The animated kids film clone wars is also garbage
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farfolomew — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 08:01 PM)
Wow, your post echos my sentiments almost to a T! While the TPM is considerably flawed in many of its attritubes, I loved certain elements of it: the music, the new planets, species introduced, and mainly the Darth Maul fight scene at the end. Say what you will about the Darth Maul character himself, but that fight scene was between those 3 was epic, and I dare say even better than Luke vs Vader in ESB.
Your ranking of movies is exactly as I would have them too (although for me, ROTJ and ESB are nearly identical in ranking; there's no clear winner for me between those two). I'm biased a bit on ROTJ because I grew up with it, but I objectively look at the Ewoks today, and I sincerely think they're not a stain on the movie. The way Han despises them at first, then learns to tolerate them, as well as C3PO's promotion of a deity status is just pure script gold! Not to mention the epic space battle scene. And then ROTJ's ending with Vader's final act of goodness, the unveiling of his helmet, and the cremation scene. THAT was great cinema. ROTJ is seriously underrated and anyone who thinks TFA is better than it is delusional.
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Day_ImFivebyFive — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 03:58 PM)
RotS is far and away the best of the prequels IMO. I get scared even thinking of watching that film, cause it has so many dramatic moments. Anakin going dark has to happen, but it's so gut wrenching to watch we can't take our eyes off screen. Mace confronting Palpatine is also bone chilling because we know what's gonna happen. Ah, it's a great film to rewatch, especially certain scenes.
The Phantom Menace has one good scene (two if you count the pod racing scene, though I don't since it's not important to the overall plot as others have mentioned). Attack of the Clones is better than TPM overall with a more interesting plot but has no memorable scenes.
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ira_gaines — 10 years ago(December 29, 2015 11:34 AM)
I think the split among fans is really based around what attracts you to the original trilogy. Some people are really attached to the characters of the OT. Others are more attached to the world. I would fit in the 2nd catergory. I never found the characters in the OT super interesting. They're engaging enough to carry the plot but that's it. I was always more interested in the world, and Lucas's inventiveness that created it.
If you like the OT for the characters, then you'll probably love TFA and hate the prequels. If you like the OT for the "world", then you'll probably hate TFA but be more accepting of the prequels. -
bishop-69757 — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 05:40 AM)
TFA 7/10 far from perfect but still pretty good
PM 4/10 Had some cool characters and moments but just too much garbage
9 year old Anakin
Pod Race
Jar Jar Binks having such a big role
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instant_change — 10 years ago(January 03, 2016 06:58 AM)
OP, the same thought occurred to me - almost along the lines of "How is TPM any worse than this?" TPM gets a lot of hate, I'm guessing mostly because of the kid, midichlorians and Jar-Jar, but at least Lucas tried to create brand new worlds and stories with the prequels - in my opinion, TFA doesn't really have any.
The prequels suffer mainly from video-game-like CGI overload and stiff acting which is a combination of poor actors (Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen), too much green screen and probably Lucas' directing. -
farfolomew — 9 years ago(August 01, 2016 02:14 AM)
I like that scoring! At least we know TPM thinks it can pull off a 9, even if it lands no where close. TFA has no aspiration to be anything more than a 4.
MY RATINGS
2001,F.Gump,S.Shank,A.Beauty:
10
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Volley2020 — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 01:22 PM)
Seeing as how Rey and Finn pick up lightsabers and fight as if they're trained Jedi Knights is what I would call taking a big chance, but I see what you mean.
It's essentially a New Hope rehashed, which is okay if done right, but in this case I felt a few things were lacking, mostly the music, and the loss of a major character that seemed unnecessary.
But my biggest gripe was not being able to see Coruscant, post Return of the Jedi. 30 years of waiting and still no official visuals on what Imperial Center or post-Imperial Center looks like save for that little quip in ROTJ Special Edition. -
maxx816 — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 09:48 AM)
Seeing as how Rey and Finn pick up lightsabers and fight as if they're trained Jedi Knights is what I would call taking a big chance,
This argument has been made a few times now and my only response to it is: Yes you probably do need quite a bit of training in order to at least be good. However, if your enemy was coming at you swinging a Lightsaber, don't you think that survival instincts would kick in and unless you were a total nothing, you would still be able to defend yourself for a little while?
I didn't particularly see either character perform any amazing moves or tricks. They were simply trying to defend themselves.