Just watched Force Awakens, and don't see how it is 2.2 points higher
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farfolomew — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 08:01 PM)
Wow, your post echos my sentiments almost to a T! While the TPM is considerably flawed in many of its attritubes, I loved certain elements of it: the music, the new planets, species introduced, and mainly the Darth Maul fight scene at the end. Say what you will about the Darth Maul character himself, but that fight scene was between those 3 was epic, and I dare say even better than Luke vs Vader in ESB.
Your ranking of movies is exactly as I would have them too (although for me, ROTJ and ESB are nearly identical in ranking; there's no clear winner for me between those two). I'm biased a bit on ROTJ because I grew up with it, but I objectively look at the Ewoks today, and I sincerely think they're not a stain on the movie. The way Han despises them at first, then learns to tolerate them, as well as C3PO's promotion of a deity status is just pure script gold! Not to mention the epic space battle scene. And then ROTJ's ending with Vader's final act of goodness, the unveiling of his helmet, and the cremation scene. THAT was great cinema. ROTJ is seriously underrated and anyone who thinks TFA is better than it is delusional.
As for ESB, well that needs no defending for it's ranking
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Day_ImFivebyFive — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 03:58 PM)
RotS is far and away the best of the prequels IMO. I get scared even thinking of watching that film, cause it has so many dramatic moments. Anakin going dark has to happen, but it's so gut wrenching to watch we can't take our eyes off screen. Mace confronting Palpatine is also bone chilling because we know what's gonna happen. Ah, it's a great film to rewatch, especially certain scenes.
The Phantom Menace has one good scene (two if you count the pod racing scene, though I don't since it's not important to the overall plot as others have mentioned). Attack of the Clones is better than TPM overall with a more interesting plot but has no memorable scenes.
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ira_gaines — 10 years ago(December 29, 2015 11:34 AM)
I think the split among fans is really based around what attracts you to the original trilogy. Some people are really attached to the characters of the OT. Others are more attached to the world. I would fit in the 2nd catergory. I never found the characters in the OT super interesting. They're engaging enough to carry the plot but that's it. I was always more interested in the world, and Lucas's inventiveness that created it.
If you like the OT for the characters, then you'll probably love TFA and hate the prequels. If you like the OT for the "world", then you'll probably hate TFA but be more accepting of the prequels. -
bishop-69757 — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 05:40 AM)
TFA 7/10 far from perfect but still pretty good
PM 4/10 Had some cool characters and moments but just too much garbage
9 year old Anakin
Pod Race
Jar Jar Binks having such a big role
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instant_change — 10 years ago(January 03, 2016 06:58 AM)
OP, the same thought occurred to me - almost along the lines of "How is TPM any worse than this?" TPM gets a lot of hate, I'm guessing mostly because of the kid, midichlorians and Jar-Jar, but at least Lucas tried to create brand new worlds and stories with the prequels - in my opinion, TFA doesn't really have any.
The prequels suffer mainly from video-game-like CGI overload and stiff acting which is a combination of poor actors (Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen), too much green screen and probably Lucas' directing. -
farfolomew — 9 years ago(August 01, 2016 02:14 AM)
I like that scoring! At least we know TPM thinks it can pull off a 9, even if it lands no where close. TFA has no aspiration to be anything more than a 4.
MY RATINGS
2001,F.Gump,S.Shank,A.Beauty:
10
| TDK:
6
| Avengers:
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Volley2020 — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 01:22 PM)
Seeing as how Rey and Finn pick up lightsabers and fight as if they're trained Jedi Knights is what I would call taking a big chance, but I see what you mean.
It's essentially a New Hope rehashed, which is okay if done right, but in this case I felt a few things were lacking, mostly the music, and the loss of a major character that seemed unnecessary.
But my biggest gripe was not being able to see Coruscant, post Return of the Jedi. 30 years of waiting and still no official visuals on what Imperial Center or post-Imperial Center looks like save for that little quip in ROTJ Special Edition. -
maxx816 — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 09:48 AM)
Seeing as how Rey and Finn pick up lightsabers and fight as if they're trained Jedi Knights is what I would call taking a big chance,
This argument has been made a few times now and my only response to it is: Yes you probably do need quite a bit of training in order to at least be good. However, if your enemy was coming at you swinging a Lightsaber, don't you think that survival instincts would kick in and unless you were a total nothing, you would still be able to defend yourself for a little while?
I didn't particularly see either character perform any amazing moves or tricks. They were simply trying to defend themselves. -
Kruleworld — 10 years ago(March 06, 2016 11:26 PM)
by dantt777
I just watched TFA, and Finn is far more annoying than Jar Jar
The difference between Finn and Jar-Jar is Finn is able to stop being a f-wit and do some good. he
stepped up
when the film needed him too. Jar-Jar just kept on with being a buffoon. Sure, we can try and believe Jar-Jar is a master drunken boxer, but it's still annoying a fvck.
"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok" -
Incorruptible — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 06:17 PM)
The most terrible thing about TFA is "film rushing". They want to tell you everything in less than 15 min:
Rey being a Jedi in less than 20 min.
Han Solo death and the pointless Father & Son melodrama (again something already explored in ESB) in less than 30 min.
Meaningless General Hux. We don't even know where the hell the First Order came and they got a full motivation to destroy everything. In ANH at least we knew about Tarkin motivations and a short but important gathering between Imperial officers in TFA we don't have any idea what the hell they want (Very similar to the infamous Trade Federation)
Trench battle in the Starkiller base and blowing the planet in less than 20 min! -
farfolomew — 9 years ago(July 08, 2016 03:36 AM)
Great comments, I agree completely. ANH's gathering of Imperial Officers scene is brilliant. Its all we need to know the setting: there's a powerful emperor, there's a galactic senate that he's just abolished, and there's a mystical magical force that the dark lord can control. Add that to the lawless outlying territory like Tatooine tells us a lot of the Galaxy this movie takes place in.
MY RATINGS
2001,F.Gump,S.Shank,A.Beauty:
10
| TDK:
6
| Avengers:
4