this is the one film that i refuse to ever watch again. i'm not saying its a crappy film but i just personally hated it.
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rivergirl301 — 15 years ago(May 31, 2010 06:24 PM)
I think now, in the 21st century, we have learned that child abusers are not drooling monsters who hide in the shadows. They are the married father next door, the child's uncle, the baby sitter. This movie presenting the molester "not as a 1 dimensional monster" is NOT news, it's not some sort of break through. I don't think a guy masturbating because he is frustrated is a real knee slapper, either. I didn't see anything interesting in this movie except 1 dimensional characters (the clueless housewife, the vapid self-centered celebrity).
"The child molester is a working man, good father, family man. He's not presented like a 1 dimentional monster. All he wants is to be happy like all characters in the movie, unfortunely for him, he's attracted to children, which is disgusting, but it's something that he can't control. -
Alex_Delarge2001 — 15 years ago(June 03, 2010 06:41 AM)
Of course it's not news, but it's not usual in movies.
What makes the character interesting is it dares you to sympathize with him and think about his situation.
It's not supposed to news, hardly anything in movies is news, most of the time like i said it's just stories about stuff that happens irl.
What i like about the movie is that it makes me laugh at the darkest themes. Look at that father/son relatioship, is not something you see everyday for sure and certainly a movie that dares you laughing about pedophilia isn't that usual.
It's a satire, dark comedy, you don't have to take everything so serious.
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Alison17 — 12 years ago(January 26, 2014 02:05 AM)
Though I haven't seen it in a while, this is one of the very few films I own. I love the savagely black humor of it. I can see why some people might find it too sick, but I think it's better to be able to laugh.
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openseason88 — 19 years ago(December 07, 2006 10:01 AM)
I see that people are into pushing what is considered "acceptable." I also understand that shock value is often central to art. This movie, however, needs some kind of redeeming feature. Spoiler Frankly, I find all the beep about child abuse (Dad whacking off to a boys life magazine) to be too disgusting.
I'm no prude, but I guess I dont see why anyone would WANT to see that kind of thing. Its not educational, entertaining, or enlightening. It is gross for its own sake.
Truly, how many people watch a movie saying "I wanna feel horrible after I see this. Not sad, not moved, just disgusted. I dont want any redeeming qualities to my characters."
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chopper0116 — 19 years ago(December 08, 2006 06:54 PM)
I agree with the poster openseason88. I am still spinning from just having watched this movie. I truly don't know what to think. What character made me feel better about anything, who made me feel worse (I believe there is no ONE) Although we villify the pedophile & Rightly so. I am SO confused..I hated evey character. Except for Louise Lasser and the Husband . Very controversial film. I was sickened, but at the same time completely enveloped in the storyline. This can only come from the mind of a person who has been there and had that happen or almost happen. Great filmmaking.. Very.. disturbing film..
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dwhomp — 19 years ago(December 08, 2006 11:22 PM)
My Mother and I always have the same arguement when we get together
She blames violence in video games and movies and the like for helping the downfall of this country.
I always argue.
After this movie? I dont argue anymore. All you folks that are so hip and so knowledgable that enjoy this movie should be scoured with steel wool. Finding any humor in what he did is not genius, shocking, or amazingit is sick, plain and simple.
Now, before the "artists" get on my case, yeah, I get it. The fact this was even made is a sign that Solondz should just hang it up. Dollhouse maybe, the rest of his movies are nothing short of garbage. -
debaserthief — 17 years ago(September 28, 2008 06:58 PM)
I think the movie is supposed to make us uncomfortable and at the same time make us laugh at the beep up beep that can happen. No, I don't condone the incest/rape scene, obviously but in general, the film makes me think of the small beep that has happened to me is either not a big deal or I can learn to move past it. I love this film from the opening scene with John Lovitz to the "I came scene". And yes, probably bad idea to watch this with your mom. It would give me the willies if I sat there with my mom. My friend saw this film at the theater and said half of the audience left the theater. I experienced this with the film, Piano Teacher.
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coffey1134 — 18 years ago(April 10, 2007 06:47 PM)
I am going to agree with dwhomp 100% on this one. Just because a film is controversial or taboo, doesn't automatically make it worth a beep This movie has absolutly no artistic integrity and was painful to watch.
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a-movie-fan — 15 years ago(June 22, 2010 09:03 AM)
'dwhomp'
I won't judge for possibly playing those violent video games with their first-person shooting and blowing sh!t up and beating people up to steal their cars etc. or the violent films that do pretty much that same, that most of us love and watch. Nor will I judge you for watching said film with your mother as I watch quite a lot with my own kids,
if
they're old enough
and
are interested.
So
I'd suggest you don't go judging
ANY
of us here for how we choose to view this film. And before you start handing out the steel wool to us, make sure you and mother have a good old scrub as, you both watched it to the end I'm gathering from your post!!!!
If you're going to judge all of a persons movie on one, then you and mommy just stick to Disney films, you'll never be forced to face the facts that happen in the world on a daily basis or reality ever again!!
And if I may say so myself, you
did
in-fact learn something from viewing this movie; You stated you won't argue with your mother anymore!! She must be proud!
P.S.- Thank you so much for stating we're all so 'hip' and 'knowledgable' [sic]! Now I'm proud of you for noticing our hidden talents!!
~ "Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go!" ~
- Thank you so much for stating we're all so 'hip' and 'knowledgable' [sic]! Now I'm proud of you for noticing our hidden talents!!
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Alison17 — 11 years ago(February 25, 2015 09:43 PM)
My black sense of humor should be scoured with steel wool so as not to offend your delicate sensibility? Are you the taste police? Laughter is the best medicine and you could use a big dose to shake all those judgemental thoughts from your brain.
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TaRaNRoD — 5 years ago(November 22, 2020 08:55 AM)
Thank you. The worst part with all these people who get so hostile with others because they like a movie they judge unacceptable, is that they don't see the irony of their pompous and exaggerated reactions.
So, a person is sick because he/she likes some kind of movies which depict taboo subjects such as violence and sex in a more extreme way then the mainstream media show them. However, when they tell things like " someone should be scoured with steel wool", they basically wish death on people for liking a movie (I've also seen some users saying it straight forward on others gore movies' pages).
This is totally uncalled for, immature and narrow minded. Usually, I don't even like these movies, with a few exceptions (like Cannibal Holocaust, huge fan). However, people can enjoy whatever they want, as long as they harm no one.
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berts1404 — 19 years ago(December 11, 2006 01:56 PM)
Frankly, I find all the beep about child abuse (Dad whacking off to a boys life magazine) to be too disgusting.
Before seeing this film, I always wondered if someone would have the balls to tackle the subject in such a no bulls**t manner. I found it refreshing to see such controversial subject matter in a film and applaude the director for showing peadophiles in a realistic light, instead of just as monsters, everything in life is always more complicated than that. There must be some who fight with their conscience like Frank did. At times he seemed disgusted with himself, but still couldn't stop what he was doing. The scene where he tells his son what he is essentially, was one of the most disturbing, yet powerful I've ever seen.
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