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    HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:25 PM)

    sndifns0dfsndfn said...
    People are rioting because Mexicans can't obey the law and keep getting arrested.
    What law? Please elaborate on how and why this riot started.
    If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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      sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:26 PM)

      HollyJollyHanukka said...
      What law? Please elaborate on how and why this riot started.
      Entering the country without permission is illegal.

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        HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:28 PM)

        sndifns0dfsndfn said...
        Entering the country without permission is illegal.
        What is this riot about and why did it start.
        If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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          sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:32 PM)

          HollyJollyHanukka said...
          What is this riot about and why did it start.
          People are rioting over criminals being arrested.

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            HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:38 PM)

            sndifns0dfsndfn said...
            People are rioting over criminals being arrested.
            What criminals? What did these criminals do? By whom are they being arrested?
            If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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              sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:39 PM)

              HollyJollyHanukka said...
              What criminals? What did these criminals do? By whom are they being arrested?
              They are illegals and being arrested by ICE.

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                HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:46 PM)

                sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                They are illegals and being arrested by ICE.
                They are? Does ICE have warrants? Are the people being anrrested afforded due process? Are all of these so-called criminals people who entered the a United States illegally?
                If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                  sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:49 PM)

                  HollyJollyHanukka said...
                  They are? Does ICE have warrants? Are the people being anrrested afforded due process? Are all of these so-called criminals people who entered the a United States illegally?
                  Yep they get due process. If they didn't want to be deported they should have entered legally.

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                    HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:50 PM)

                    sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                    Yep they get due process. If they didn't want to be deported they should have entered legally.
                    You didn’t answer all my questions.
                    Do you understand what due process is?
                    If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                      sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 11, 2025 11:54 PM)

                      HollyJollyHanukka said...
                      You didn’t answer all my questions.
                      Do you understand what due process is?
                      Yep. They get due process.

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                        HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 12:04 AM)

                        sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                        Yep. They get due process.
                        To repeat the questions you haven’t answered:
                        They are all illegals?
                        Does ICE have warrants?
                        Are the people being anrrested afforded due process?
                        Have all of these so-called criminals who ICE is arresting entered the United States illegally?
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                        If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                          sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 12:11 AM)

                          HollyJollyHanukka said...
                          To repeat the questions you haven’t answered:
                          They are all illegals?
                          Does ICE have warrants?
                          Are the people being anrrested afforded due process?
                          Have all of these so-called criminals who ICE is arresting entered the United States illegally?
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                          Illegal immigrants are illegal, yes.
                          ICE does not need a warrant to make an arrest.
                          People arrested get due process.
                          Illegal immigrants are people who entered illegally.

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                            Sophienoire — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 12:13 AM)

                            sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                            Illegal immigrants are illegal, yes.
                            ICE does not need a warrant to make an arrest.
                            People arrested get due process.
                            Illegal immigrants are people who entered illegally.
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                              HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 12:25 AM)

                              sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                              Illegal immigrants are illegal, yes.
                              ICE does not need a warrant to make an arrest.
                              People arrested get due process.
                              Illegal immigrants are people who entered illegally.
                              Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                              If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                              If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                                sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 01:04 AM)

                                HollyJollyHanukka said...
                                Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                                If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                                So you don't think people should be arrested for crimes?

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                                  HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 01:05 AM)

                                  sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                                  So you don't think people should be arrested for crimes?
                                  Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                                  If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                                  If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                                    sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 01:09 AM)

                                    HollyJollyHanukka said...
                                    Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                                    If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                                    You don't need to be guilty of a crime for law enforcement to arrest you.
                                    Law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to make an arrest.
                                    Being arrested doesn't mean you don't get due process. Why are you giving criminals so much leeway? Do you want murderers and rapists just running around free until they are found guilty in court?

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                                      HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 01:12 AM)

                                      sndifns0dfsndfn said...
                                      You don't need to be guilty of a crime for law enforcement to arrest you.
                                      Law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to make an arrest.
                                      Being arrested doesn't mean you don't get due process. Why are you giving criminals so much leeway? Do you want murderers and rapists just running around free until they are found guilty in court?
                                      Okay, so this is your admission that you don’t know the law.
                                      Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                                      If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                                      If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                                        sndifns0dfsndfn — 9 months ago(June 12, 2025 01:17 AM)

                                        HollyJollyHanukka said...
                                        Okay, so this is your admission that you don’t know the law.
                                        Do they know EVERY PERSON they arrest has entered the country illegally?
                                        If they don’t have a warrant, the people being arrested aren’t being afforded due process. They are being arrested based on a very subjective judgement of probable cause. ICE is not acting in good faith because everyone they arrest isn’t in the country illegally. Most of these ICE “agents” are thugs.
                                        Are the police omniscient? No, of course not. What a stupid question Holly. Police make arrests based on available evidence. That doesn't always mean someone will be found guilty of what they were arrested for in a court of law.
                                        You don't need a warrant to be arrested and being arrested doesn't mean you will not have due process. This is how it works for both citizens and non-citizens.

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