homoerotic..
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devilsavocado — 21 years ago(July 29, 2004 12:40 PM)
I don't knowI liked whatever element of homoeroticism there was as it was, which was kind of subtle, like another layer to their friendship. I think it would have been too easy for them to hook up in the end, too similar to Y Tu Mama Tambien, and way out of character for Jack.
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kuroko — 21 years ago(August 05, 2004 12:07 PM)
Yes it would've seemed a little too much like "Y tu mama tambien". Two best friends, a girl, a road trip, they hook up, etc. But I did have the same idea all of you had about the homoerotic tones. Can anyone explain me why Pilot asks Jack after he spends the night with the Cassie, if they had sex and if he actually came? And what was the deal with the look in Pilot's face after Jack answered yes?
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Cathexis_Angel — 21 years ago(August 20, 2004 12:21 PM)
You'll notice that they did'nt show the supposed sex scene between Pilot and the prostitute. I don't think he went through with it, he had feelings for Jack. Which is ironic because Jake Gyllenhaal(Pilot) is playing gay in his next film and his name is Jack.
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selenas-1 — 20 years ago(April 07, 2005 06:47 AM)
Thank you!! That's what i've always thought - that no way did he go through with it! I don't know if was in love with Jared Leto's character, but there was definitley some sexual sub text and chemistry there, but maybe just from Pilot's sideand that's why he really hates Selma Blair's character getting in the wayanyway, i enjoyed this film sooooooooooo much!
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fascinatedbymannequins — 20 years ago(March 20, 2006 05:42 AM)
Did you even watch the movie? The hints are all there, you just don't want to see them.
And nobody ever accused Jack of being gay. If you bothered to read, we're all pretty much going with the unrequited angle. Pilot loves Jack, Jack loves Cassie. Get it now? -
raven_bloom — 20 years ago(February 02, 2006 10:15 AM)
I think he asked because Jack never came before; a sign that sex was nothing but a game to him. But when he came with Cassie, it meant he actually felt something for her, and Pilot probably knew that would happen but was saddened/annoyed/disappointed to see it.
This movie was just two really good friends; I think people put too much into trying to turn everything into some type of homosexual undertone. However, no one mentioned [that I saw] anything about Cobainwho was once quoted to say he would try out guys if he wasn't married to Courtney. So who knows; maybe this whole movie was just a bunch of gay guys.
but I seriously doubt it.
One the other hand [yeah, I'll shush in a sec] what's up with Johnny's blond haired friend? Family, friend, or partner, hmm?? lol I think you guys just wanted to see Jared and Jake get it on LOL Bah. -
BantamsGirl — 17 years ago(May 17, 2008 08:06 AM)
I think there was some subtext there but I feel the feelings were from Pilot towards Jack but they weren't returned. Pilots problem is he couldn't get hard with his girlfriendif it has always been that way..which it seems to be. Then it imo was because of his sexuality and him being more attracted to men.
Also when they introduced Johnny FoxI felt subtext between him and Pilot within seconds. Johnny was very protective of Pilot and there seemed to be something unspoken between them. Many moments of hugs lasting too long etc, and the whole dancing in the field was a moment they shared. Maybe Johnny just got that vibe from Pilot as I also wondered if the blonde guy was Johnny's partner and that he was gay.
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monkie_gal — 21 years ago(February 01, 2005 04:13 AM)
I don't think their character's are gay. Yes Pilot is sexually confused due to the fact that he's practically high 24-7.
Why do you wear that stupid bunny outfit?
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krischasez@hotmail.com — 21 years ago(February 09, 2005 11:46 AM)
Obviously the homoeroticism wasn't totally unintentional because they ended the film with a quote from Jack Kerouac's "On The Road", where the two main male characters have a thing, it's very homoerotic. I think the filmmakers intended for the homoeroticism to be in the film, and to be subtle. I think it works. It was great in this film.
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dingos_ate_my_baby57 — 21 years ago(February 17, 2005 09:32 AM)
Who else would have paid good money to see jake and jared get their groove on? they are two of my favourite hollywood actors on account they are both just so fit!! damn that kirsten dunst and scarlett johanson!
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littledevilman — 21 years ago(February 17, 2005 09:10 PM)
I dont think they are gay, i think piliot just really wants to be like Jack, in the begining when it had all the falshback beep from when they were kids, there was that one part where Piliot was shootin beep with a water pistol at the carnival and looked all excited cause he thought jack was lookin, but jack was pimpin on thoses to teenage chicks, what else, uh, that part where johnny the fox ask if piliots jelous, which he is thats why hes goin to seattle, i dont know theres other beep but im tired.