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    raven_bloom — 20 years ago(February 02, 2006 10:15 AM)

    I think he asked because Jack never came before; a sign that sex was nothing but a game to him. But when he came with Cassie, it meant he actually felt something for her, and Pilot probably knew that would happen but was saddened/annoyed/disappointed to see it.
    This movie was just two really good friends; I think people put too much into trying to turn everything into some type of homosexual undertone. However, no one mentioned [that I saw] anything about Cobainwho was once quoted to say he would try out guys if he wasn't married to Courtney. So who knows; maybe this whole movie was just a bunch of gay guys.
    but I seriously doubt it.
    One the other hand [yeah, I'll shush in a sec] what's up with Johnny's blond haired friend? Family, friend, or partner, hmm?? lol I think you guys just wanted to see Jared and Jake get it on LOL Bah.

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      BantamsGirl — 17 years ago(May 17, 2008 08:06 AM)

      I think there was some subtext there but I feel the feelings were from Pilot towards Jack but they weren't returned. Pilots problem is he couldn't get hard with his girlfriendif it has always been that way..which it seems to be. Then it imo was because of his sexuality and him being more attracted to men.
      Also when they introduced Johnny FoxI felt subtext between him and Pilot within seconds. Johnny was very protective of Pilot and there seemed to be something unspoken between them. Many moments of hugs lasting too long etc, and the whole dancing in the field was a moment they shared. Maybe Johnny just got that vibe from Pilot as I also wondered if the blonde guy was Johnny's partner and that he was gay.
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        shaver8 — 21 years ago(August 21, 2004 07:43 PM)

        just because two guys are close friends doesnt make them gayyou are all horrible people.

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          caitlingarvey — 21 years ago(August 29, 2004 07:31 PM)

          I don't think the homoeroticism was totally one-sided on Pilot's part; I thought Jack seemed a little jealous of the fact Pilot set up the trip to go find Amy, not just for helping Jack

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            libra_69 — 21 years ago(November 10, 2004 08:41 PM)

            What part about everyone thinking that these two characters were gay or bisexual makes everyone that commented in that regard "all horrible people," shaver8? There was no bashing going on. Get a grip.

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                monkie_gal — 21 years ago(February 01, 2005 04:13 AM)

                I don't think their character's are gay. Yes Pilot is sexually confused due to the fact that he's practically high 24-7.
                Why do you wear that stupid bunny outfit?
                Why do you wear that stupid human outfit?

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                  krischasez@hotmail.com — 21 years ago(February 09, 2005 11:46 AM)

                  Obviously the homoeroticism wasn't totally unintentional because they ended the film with a quote from Jack Kerouac's "On The Road", where the two main male characters have a thing, it's very homoerotic. I think the filmmakers intended for the homoeroticism to be in the film, and to be subtle. I think it works. It was great in this film.

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                    dbrockskk1 — 10 years ago(May 19, 2015 06:45 PM)

                    why? what's horrible about homosexuality? Dont see Brokeback! You can't handle it!
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                      dingos_ate_my_baby57 — 21 years ago(February 17, 2005 09:32 AM)

                      Who else would have paid good money to see jake and jared get their groove on? they are two of my favourite hollywood actors on account they are both just so fit!! damn that kirsten dunst and scarlett johanson!

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                        littledevilman — 21 years ago(February 17, 2005 09:10 PM)

                        I dont think they are gay, i think piliot just really wants to be like Jack, in the begining when it had all the falshback beep from when they were kids, there was that one part where Piliot was shootin beep with a water pistol at the carnival and looked all excited cause he thought jack was lookin, but jack was pimpin on thoses to teenage chicks, what else, uh, that part where johnny the fox ask if piliots jelous, which he is thats why hes goin to seattle, i dont know theres other beep but im tired.

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                          selenas-1 — 20 years ago(April 07, 2005 06:58 AM)

                          They both have such bad taste in womenkirsten is such a plain jane, gal next door, and scarlett - don't even get me started on her funny face

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                            marleyzr — 20 years ago(January 14, 2006 10:59 AM)

                            THANK YOU. I hate kirsten dunst. Stole my man

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                              Welcome_to_mars666 — 20 years ago(January 16, 2006 02:17 PM)

                              I know! i hate kirsten dunst! her tits are so gross! how they just.hang out with her knee's.

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                                venusplutonian — 21 years ago(March 24, 2005 10:53 PM)

                                I think they were a couple o' hotties and they shoulda totally SNOGGED and SCROGGED! Yeah!!
                                Sorry, I just wanted to freak out the prissy people.

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                                  chibilute — 21 years ago(April 03, 2005 03:02 PM)

                                  they're actually both sexually confused/frustrated/messed up, whatever. jack hasn't came in 5 years, and i think pilot was comfortable knowing that he wasn't the only one who had sexual problems.

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                                      Aizyk — 20 years ago(April 11, 2005 11:35 PM)

                                      I'm surprised so many people here saw the undertones as well. I saw this on TV yesterday, and while I don't think "they were gay", I think that Gyllenhall's character came off as probably being at least bisexual. But it seemed like his affection for Leto's character was something that he hadn't articulated, either to himself or others. The character didn't seem like someone who would pause to ponder such an issue and its ramifications. Rather, it was something less a matter of "thinking" and more a matter of "feeling/emotion".
                                      And after he came out of the cathouse, didn't he tell Leto's character that they hadn't had sex, and that he'd simply talked to the prostitue like a psychiatrist or something? If I recall correctly, he was so happy because he'd gotten some things off his chest
                                      I do think though that he also had a "crush", if you could call it that, on the girl in Seattle. The one who he felt he'd spent such a meaningful night and connected with, but who later ended up not remembering or recognizing him.
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                                        grassroots — 20 years ago(April 22, 2005 01:05 PM)

                                        I dont really think there was any homoeroticism in the movie. The reason pilot didnt like cassie was because she was getting in the middle of his and jack's friendship. it happens quite often.
                                        Also, often best friends begin to act like a married couple just because they know eachother so well. I dont really consider that homoeroticism because if you say it about this movie then you'd have to say it about joey and chandler on friends or the dudes from perfect strangers (with balki.)
                                        on a sidenote, the person that said that in "on the Road" the two main character had a "thing" must have read a different book than the one i read and i've read it many times.

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                                          malibutrash — 20 years ago(May 02, 2005 09:52 PM)

                                          there was definitely some sexual confusion going on with both charactors. just that Jack was better at hiding it.

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