sara - slutty?
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mjprogue — 17 years ago(May 25, 2008 08:10 PM)
Yes she is a slut. You can not love a different person every month. That is not love. I won't attempt to analyze her motivations, but they probably have to do with conquest and/or empowerment.
Monogamy may be a social construct, but so is the word slut. By definition she is onesimple as that. If you think its ok to be a slut, then more power to youdoesn't change what the word means. -
PheonixInferno — 17 years ago(June 24, 2008 06:15 PM)
Sure she's a slut. But then if you follow that line of thought then so is every guy who sleeps with a different girl every month/week/night.
It really floors me that there's such a double standard in this world.
I don't see why she has to be called a slut, if I was dying why not sleep with people? It's a natural act. There's nothing wrong with it. And the word slut has such a negative tone to it.
So no. She's not a slut. -
fire-baby — 13 years ago(July 15, 2012 08:11 PM)
hmm, yeah she's is a bit of a slag though slut, whore, whatever, same difference. guys, girls, whomever, they're all in the same boat.
that being said, i don't actually think she slept with every guy of the month and even if she did, she's dying, so maybe she was just like, beep it, why don't slut it up a bit? better being promiscuous than suicidal, i guess.
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bookwormgal — 17 years ago(July 08, 2008 09:35 PM)
Depends on your culture, religion, and philosophy. From your statement I am gathering that from you viewpoint she would be a slut, and from the other guy's comment that from his viewpoint she is not? Love has many definitions in many different contexts - The JudeoChristian definition being only one of many and even within that context there is variation in the definition.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/love has nine alone including one specifically for the Christian subset of those who believe in Christian Science. While other cultures and religions not as common in the United States an UK as the aforementioned do allow for allowances that involve being 'in love' with more than one partner at the same time, even within the realm of JudeoChristian one can love in a non-sexual context many people at the same time.
Slut usually conotates a) slovenly and/or b) prostitute and/or c) promiscuous. She doesn't fit into a or b so that leaves c, which if you live in the SF Bay Area (like the character does) is debateable if she should be considered one or not. I don't think she fits being especially promiscuous for one in this culture, though I am personally a prude for this area next to her. I'd say she's probably average for this culture - good or bad. -
rlil2001 — 17 years ago(August 03, 2008 04:05 AM)
"I won't attempt to analyze her motivations, but they probably have to do with conquest and/or empowerment.'
Our sad culture often whips out the word 'slut' or other negative terms whenever a woman does anything having to do with 'conquest and/or empowerment.'
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tranxHDR — 17 years ago(February 18, 2009 02:43 AM)
The thing is, Sara never really confirmed it. Even when Nelson asked about it. Her answer(s) always went around the question. So she probably did or didn't sleep with every month guy she had, except for September.
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GigisPapa — 16 years ago(July 22, 2009 10:02 PM)
I didn't dissect the script but I believe when asked she did not have any projects prior to October. She stated the October was shy and there was no September. So I don't believe she deserves the term slut be applied to her character.
What exactly are the qualifications required for such a designation? More than 2, 3, 5,or 10 sexual relationships? It's sad that there are people so shallow as to attach a term like slut to a character in a movie. Especially when the reasoning behind such a conclusion is implied.
Who knows, maybe Abner was the shy October project. Something to think about.
BTW, I think it's a great movie. I'm not a big Keanu Reeves fan but I think he did a pretty good job. Charlize on the other had gives it all to her craft. She can speak with her eyes and say it all as she did in this movie. -
ashfordcrane — 16 years ago(October 23, 2009 10:38 AM)
If the sex roles were reversed in this movie, and a man was changing partners every month, what would you call him? What's the negative male term for "slut"? Seriously, try to think of one, and I'm betting the ones you come up with are actually compliments. Double standard indeed.
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Awakening124 — 16 years ago(November 05, 2009 10:59 PM)
The only one I can think of is manwhore, but I think even that one can be used in a positive light from time to time.
In order to really help her 'projects' she needed to build the most intimate, trusting relationship possible. With most people, sex is a part of that. It would also let her help with their intimacy issues (like Nelson rushing things). I don't doubt for a second that she didn't truly and deeply care for every one of her 'projects,' or that her intentions were anything but pure.
On November 25th, lie for
Italia. -
gorillafiedwar — 16 years ago(January 08, 2010 04:44 PM)
Ok, first of all, we're not talking about the double-standards between the sexual conquests of men and women, and the difference in opinion on the two. If you want to discuss that, start a thread about it. Anyway, I digress.
You know, I do a pretty similar thing with all of my girlfriends. I act like a total prick, and then when I've totally demoralized them, physically, mentally and psychologically, and made them feel like crap, I leave them. And just as I walk out the door, I leave them with the last words I'll ever say to them -
'I was just doing this for your benefit honey! Think about it. You've learned better understanding, compassion, forgiveness and obedience. And in the long run this break-up will give you the capability to deal with rejection on a much wider scale.
So I'm actually a pretty cool guy. See ya'
Same premise after all isn't it. Its a total cop-out, and just simply gives me a poor excuse to be a horrible specimen, but I can tell them that I'm just being a nice person and helping them grow as a human being. The fact that I was horrible before I came up with this excuse is irrelevent, rather than the other way around. Just like the fact that she was probably a slut before she decided to come up with hers. See how I flipped it?
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MovieForumReaderGuy — 16 years ago(November 07, 2009 05:25 AM)
Haha, I knew from the title of this thread all the women that have a new wiener in them on a whim would come on defending the whole idea.
YES, guys that do the same thing are sluts too, but they're usually just called a-holes or d-heads or w/e other expletive can be thrown out and well-deserved.
I don't know why women assume guys aren't sluts when they do the same thing - they are. guys just act like it's fine and dandy just like women act like it's ok to gobble massive organs on a daily basis in porn and say it's just art whatever.
If someone wants to be a slut, let 'em, so be it just be upfront about it in the beginning as the non-slut may not want to take the risk and find out what kind of ingredients are floating around in your system. or dried up on them upon arriving home from a night out. -
Danomera — 16 years ago(November 24, 2009 02:03 PM)
So what?
And for the comment you cannot love someone different each month, thats not love??
We as humans are totally capable of loving more than one person at a time. Love isn't always about sex to be love.
I love my parents, my kids, my siblings, other relatives, friends. I have room in my heart to love many people at once.
And there is room in my heart for more than one great romance. I still love old romances even tho we are no longer together, doesn't mean loves stops just because sex does. -
grumpyoldguy1 — 14 years ago(December 04, 2011 01:24 AM)
This overlong conversation reminds me of a psychiatrist I used to work with at a private psychiatric facility. He would invariably refer to boys as being "sexually active," and girls as being "promiscuous." This was regardless of how often they were having sex. Terms like "slut" should be abolished from our vocabulary, along with other demeaning words like the "n" word. These words do not inform a conversation, they only serve to demean someone.
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hannahruckert — 12 years ago(October 13, 2013 08:35 PM)
Yes, she's a slut. All women are sluts, even if they don't screw around. As people say, monogamy is a social construcion so is the sexual opression that women suffer for doing whatever they want with their body. Nobody calls The Keanu's character a slut nor his friend who wouldn't tell the name of that girl's hes been dating. No, but charlize must be the whore. Free women are whores. You know what slut means?
Slut is a woman with morals of a man. Keep that in mind. -
frakplease — 11 years ago(November 12, 2014 07:19 PM)
Misandrist much???
As they say, the draft was the law Is that a social construct of voters? Of whom WOMEN make the majority of voters??? Oh, that was a 100 years ago, not long enough for women to take responsibility like they expect of men?
Is being drafted, to be sent to other countries, to kill others and to be killed, "doing everything the want with THEIR body?"
WOMEN sent men to do that, not the other way around, honey.
You know what hypocrite means?
Hypocrite = You
Any questions?
Now keep that in mind, you privileged princess.