A few things

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bobbyn — 4 years ago(May 21, 2021 03:27 AM)

I just read on IMDB that the scene with Selma Blair and Robert Wisdom was completely unstimulated. I also noticed that when Leo Fitzpatrick’s character, Marcus said, “you don’t sweat anymore.” but, like another user said, he wasn’t sweaty, either. However, after Vi goes to see Marcus after her encounter with her professor, he says, “You’re all sweaty.”

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Newuser2 — 4 years ago(May 31, 2021 06:17 PM)

It being unstimulated might explain it getting an NC-17 rating. I don’t know why Marcus would think that her not sweating would make him think she’s tired of him, though. I also noticed he didn’t seem sweaty at all.

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bkirby — 4 years ago(May 31, 2021 07:40 PM)

I don’t know why he would think that, either. She explained she was never that much of a sweater.

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vicwhite — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 04:26 AM)

It could have also been rated NC-17 for the dialogue.

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robertalt — 4 years ago(June 04, 2021 07:42 PM)

I have to give Leo Fitzpatrick credit for this role. It would probably be hard to stay in character in that first scene.

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frankm — 4 years ago(June 17, 2021 07:36 PM)

I saw this for the first time today on Amazon Prime, and I wonder why Marcus was looking at himself in the mirror and calling himself a freak. Also, I read on another website that someone felt the opening scene was bad taste to show a disabled person doing it. Why? The scene with the professor was better HOW?

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Jamestodd — 4 years ago(June 23, 2021 03:47 AM)

Maybe Marcus regretted treating Vi that way, and I agree with you about the scene with Robert Wisdom.

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Janetdunn — 4 years ago(June 23, 2021 05:09 PM)

No way on earth that scene would fly today.

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Jamesfulbright — 4 years ago(June 24, 2021 02:45 AM)

That’s for sure. If Todd Solondz made this today, he’d have to leave out that scene.

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Richardtodd — 4 years ago(June 27, 2021 09:37 PM)

I don’t think that the movie could be made at all today.

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Joncyrus — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 09:50 PM)

The scene with the professor was more explicit in terms of dialogue, but I thought that the beginning scene looked more real.

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robertfine — 4 years ago(June 22, 2021 09:56 PM)

I also read that. It says on IMDB that there weren’t any closeups of that scene out of respect for the actors.

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Richiegazzo — 4 years ago(June 23, 2021 10:25 PM)

That could also be why Marcus wasn’t shown until after they finished, out of respect for the actor playing him.

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jeremywhite — 4 years ago(June 28, 2021 08:38 PM)

Well, they finished the second that scene started, and the actor’s name is Leo Fitzpatrick.

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johnryan — 4 years ago(June 26, 2021 03:42 AM)

I doubt that’s true, because I’ve never heard of a movie that had something like that unstimulated.

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robertdisher — 4 years ago(July 31, 2021 06:43 PM)

Another poster was wondering if Leo Fitzpatrick was nervous about the opening scene. Well, Kids was pretty graphic, so he was probably used to putting himself out there like that.

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ryanmurphy — 4 years ago(August 02, 2021 04:27 PM)

I noticed when Vi hugged Marcus, his back seemed to be sweaty, or maybe I’m just seeing things.

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Richardtodd — 4 years ago(August 05, 2021 12:00 AM)

I thought that as well.