Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Film Glance Forum

  1. Home
  2. The Cinema
  3. The 'REAL' Ending?

The 'REAL' Ending?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Cinema
38 Posts 1 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • F Offline
    F Offline
    fgadmin
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Crazy/Beautiful


    llavisblade — 20 years ago(February 23, 2006 10:12 AM)

    I have a college class right now that is evaluating movies and after viewing Crazy/Beautiful we had an awesome disscussion about how the movies ending doesnt fit the movie as a whole one bit, which makes sense.
    Nicole is a destructive and rebelious child and for good reason too she saw her mother dead. If it was me I would get alittle crazy seeing my mother commit suicide.
    Carlos is a organized and well thoughtout gentlemen and meets Nicole which changes his life and attitude toward his friends and even his mother. He was becoming a rebel just like Nicole.
    Then the ending hits and they live happily ever after what is that crap? It doesnt make sense to me and later in our disscussions the professor said that the "Real" ending (meaning the one the director wanted) was changed by Disney who bought the script because the True ending was more intense then a simple happy ending. (Disney movie with a sad ending?! Blasphemy!)
    The question is what was this "Real" ending, what did the director really want the ending of this movies to be? Any information on this will wonderful!

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • F Offline
      F Offline
      fgadmin
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      ps-mn — 20 years ago(March 11, 2006 07:44 PM)

      I don't know for sure, but the director's commentary mentions thatthe script was darker also the pool scene in the montage was 'originally' at the motel - maybe they didn't go back home??

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • F Offline
        F Offline
        fgadmin
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        tristanvanos — 20 years ago(March 13, 2006 11:58 AM)

        In the director's commentary, the director said that Carlos was meant to die in the ending but they had to change it.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • F Offline
          F Offline
          fgadmin
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          Anlorew — 19 years ago(April 20, 2006 07:05 PM)

          I think that at the motel she should have killed herself thinking it's what would be best for Carlos. Whada ya think?

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • F Offline
            F Offline
            fgadmin
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            potatopasta — 19 years ago(April 29, 2006 06:48 AM)

            Also it is shown in the dvd that the original ending had Carlos not Nicole saying that they should return home not run away together. You can in the shot where Nicole tells Carlos she "wants to be good" for him that her hair is red, because at the time of the re-shoot she was filming spiderman!
            And yeah I cant believe they thought about killing off Carlos! I thought after all that him and Nicole had been through in the film they deserved to be together and happy! 🙂 Also I love that shot of Carlos at the end in his pilot uniform.
            x x

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • F Offline
              F Offline
              fgadmin
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              TimeManagementProblems — 18 years ago(October 25, 2007 08:51 AM)

              heehee, that would've been sooo melodramatic!
              and perfect for this film!

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • F Offline
                F Offline
                fgadmin
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                camelotontheavon — 14 years ago(March 03, 2012 04:54 PM)

                The director's commentary also said it was the studio who wanted the movie to end with Carlos' death. He didn't think the movie needed it. He thought it was rare for a studio to go for a non happy ending.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • F Offline
                  F Offline
                  fgadmin
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  IMDb User

                  This message has been deleted.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • F Offline
                    F Offline
                    fgadmin
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    briguy858 — 19 years ago(June 08, 2006 12:45 AM)

                    If either Carlos or Nicole died, then it would follow the Hollywood formula that miscegenation or mixed race couples were not meant to be and tragically end. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the "true" ending. So, in a way, the movie is more better in regards to not following the typical model, however, it would have been more emotional, though many won't be happy with it.
                    While you made the contrast between Carlos and Nicole, I believe Carlos's character is really unrealistic, and looking at his character in terms of the film, it only reinforces the character of Nicole, whose storyline is more resolved than Carlos's.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • F Offline
                      F Offline
                      fgadmin
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      poisongirl3234 — 19 years ago(June 14, 2006 10:05 PM)

                      Well. I love this movie and the ending is just fine with me. But! I think that the original ending (where Carlos gets killed) or if Nicole would have killed herself it would have been more realistic and a better ending in my opinion.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • F Offline
                        F Offline
                        fgadmin
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        MrsB_RAT — 19 years ago(June 25, 2006 10:14 PM)

                        I like the happy ending. It would have pissed me off if they didn't end up together, haha. But I think it's somewhat realistic that Nicole would end up not killing herself because of Carlos, and it would have been retarded if Carlos died just because it would have made the movie sadderit was depressing enough to me. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but I like happy endings. Life is depressing enough on its own, I at least want things in movies to turn out nice. 🙂
                        Blah
                        La
                        La
                        Lovely

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • F Offline
                          F Offline
                          fgadmin
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          dotplot — 18 years ago(April 27, 2007 03:20 PM)

                          I think they should of ran away, but i guess that would be really unsatisfactory so mabye not.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • F Offline
                            F Offline
                            fgadmin
                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            amdavis87 — 18 years ago(April 29, 2007 12:02 AM)

                            I agree with RavenIsDonkeyKong! I would have been REEEEEEAAAHHHHHLLLLLLYYY upset if Carlos would have died. It wouldn't have made any sense. But, if Nicole had died, I could understand that. I agree with someone who said earlier that she could have killed herself, thinking it was best for Carlos. I'm just happy that ended up together. It was cute!!! i love this movie!

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • F Offline
                              F Offline
                              fgadmin
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              pickolos80 — 18 years ago(May 01, 2007 11:41 AM)

                              The Ending was happy but if you want it to be sadder then you can just imagine him dying one week after she tells us the last voiceover? 😛

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • F Offline
                                F Offline
                                fgadmin
                                wrote last edited by
                                #15

                                Etceterist — 18 years ago(May 20, 2007 05:50 PM)

                                I have to say that yes, come to think of it, the ending does seem somewhat displaced. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's not necessarily the ending as it is that's the problem, but rather that the rest of the movie doesn't set it up properly in terms of emotional catharsism or tone. Overall, the writing wasn't the best I've ever seen, and especially the voice overs (but quite of few of the more lovey-dovey scenes as well) were very awkwardly written, slightly cheesy almost. The rest of the film had such a gritty realism, and the characters were so well rounded and shaped, the story itself held so much resonance in real life but the ending was presented to us in that almost cheesy way that seemed not to match the realism of the bulk of the movie.
                                I do think they should've ended up together, but I don't think the end voice over or the 'pilot nunez' sequence should've been in there. Maybe end it after "You were so there" in the car.
                                http://ammajiger.deviantart.com
                                Pull the pin and count to what?

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • F Offline
                                  F Offline
                                  fgadmin
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #16

                                  IMDb User

                                  This message has been deleted.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • F Offline
                                    F Offline
                                    fgadmin
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #17

                                    kay_cee_d — 17 years ago(October 04, 2008 09:13 PM)

                                    But really, how is the ending not realistic? I'm sure for ever 20 couples that ends in death or destruction there's a couple that ends in happiness. For every 50 druggies that od or leaves their family there's bound to be at least one that gets past it. I know people who have had a ROUGH life and yet they came out of it and got their life together. You could say the ending is cliche, butit really depends on the point the movie is trying to make. Sometimes happy endings don't fit, and I agree, but I didn't mind this one so much.
                                    Plus, movies can't always be 100% realistic.
                                    Only the shell, the perishable passes away. The spirit is without end. Eternal. Deathless.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • F Offline
                                      F Offline
                                      fgadmin
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      VisualAssault — 13 years ago(November 01, 2012 04:24 PM)

                                      "I like the happy ending. It would have pissed me off if they didn't end up together, haha. But I think it's somewhat realistic that Nicole would end up not killing herself because of Carlos, and it would have been retarded if Carlos died just because it would have made the movie sadderit was depressing enough to me. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but I like happy endings. Life is depressing enough on its own, I at least want things in movies to turn out nice. 🙂 "
                                      I too would've been pissed. I think CB really is a positive story with some turbulence that gives it character, a bad ending would not match the rest. I know it wasn't executed very good but let's put it this way: I wouldn't have liked CB so much if it had a tragic ending, so it really works for me.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • F Offline
                                        F Offline
                                        fgadmin
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #19

                                        chrisbedford — 18 years ago(December 20, 2007 02:46 PM)

                                        I believe Carlos's character is really unrealistic
                                        because why? Because he's a Hispanic guy who doesn't want to become a mechanic, dope dealer or car thief?
                                        The movie is unrealistic, because both characters are 17 years old and sometimes have the maturity of 40 year olds, sometimes of 17 year olds, but that aside there's nothing hugely inconsistent about the characters.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • F Offline
                                          F Offline
                                          fgadmin
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #20

                                          barcelona1684 — 18 years ago(June 16, 2007 07:35 PM)

                                          i think well first wow that class your taking sounds so cool and fun i wish my college had it and second as someone mentioned before me the ending of them not ending up together is very Hollywood, i personally have wasted to much time watching movies were the characters don't end up together and at the end your like what was the point, for example little children they should have run off together, all the pretty horses,the good girl and for once i wish someone would make a version of romeo and Juliet were they live and stay together that would be cool.i know the directors are trying to prove a moral point like with little children but hey its just a movie give us the crazy ending. on a lighter note i really love crazy beautiful and the ending included i gives you hope and it shows you that he saved her its romantic and plus i love Los Angeles especially Santa Monica and they show so much so it reminds me of the good times i had in Los Angeles.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0

                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups