Very big hole in movie
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Tawkingmime — 15 years ago(May 15, 2010 11:18 PM)
Im pretty sure he had way more saved up. One thing I noticed at the point where he made the deal was that when the camera showed the paper which contained his financial information, there was no two shown. it was "hundred and eighty two dollars" so what preceded the hundred is unknown..
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r2626 — 15 years ago(May 16, 2010 08:58 PM)
According to the CIA website, a mid level agent makes $75,000 a year. A senior agent makes $100.000. I doubt anyone in the CIA makes $282,000 a year. And a mid level CIA agent having a million dollar pension is laughable. If that is your problem with the movie, you are the one with the problem.
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sschind — 15 years ago(June 04, 2010 01:36 PM)
A couple of things to remember. As someone else pointed out he liquidated all his assets and I'm sure he took big hits on penalties etc. Also, we have no indication of his lifestyle. He drove a Porsche so maybe that wasn't his only vice. I'm not saying he was a showoff with his money or flashed it around but maybe he liked the finer things in life. I know that some scotch can be pretty expensive. I didn't find it unbelievable at all that his "life Savings" amounted to only $282,000.00. (that this amount meshed so perfectly with the retirement property was a bit convenient but again, had he not been forced to liquidate who knows how much he would have had.) I also did not assume that he had other money stashed somewhere because that would sort of defeat the whole idea of giving up your life savings to help a friend. I mean what would be the big deal if he gave up $282,000.00 if he had another $500,000.00 in another Swiss bank account.
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Blauer_Engel — 15 years ago(June 12, 2010 02:45 PM)
Has anyone considered that he was working in a rather dangerous job and therefore may have intentionally saved less money than other people would? Why not blow a bunch of it and have fun with it, if you are not really sure you're going to be alive at 65? And, as other people have pointed out, he may have incurred severe penalties and stock market losses by selling when he did.
Besides, the interesting thing in this movie is that he violates all of his own principles: He is emotionally attached to Bishop and he takes out his "nest egg" to save him (something he told Bishop he should never ever do). Nope, Muir goes for broke in this little stunt. He'll have his government retirement money and live a modest life in old age, but no more move to the Bahamas. -
saybow69 — 15 years ago(June 16, 2010 12:32 PM)
Didnt read all the threads (so maybe mentioned) but i belive that was just his dirty money (witch he would have of more of also?) but i think that money was just "dirty money" and NOT countign his real savings. Sure he had other money saved, his real money. Dont think the money he owned money. Just the money dirty money. He stole over the yrs.
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saybow69 — 15 years ago(July 23, 2010 02:10 PM)
Sorry was tired, but even with all that bad grammar, i think it`s pretty clear to understand, that all that money was dirty money. As even guy in the movie said on phone "its not like its yours" Sad thing is, i have to explain that? If i wrote in greek, i would think you knew what i was trying to say? Movie made it clear as day, i dont care how bad grammar was, like i said. The movie explained it with 2 words "DIRTY MONEY". I shouldnt have had to say any more then those 2 words? But i did, so what. If you could at least read those 2 words. That is all that was needed to explain this question. Cause if you were confused buy the movie and was that all his money? Then i dont think a scholar could have explained it to you? Cause shouldnt have even needed to be explained and no matter how bad my gramar was, i agree. "DIRTY MONEY" is all you had to take away from that. And those words were in there, that should have been enough, no matter how how bad or in arabic, if could make out just the 2 words "DIRTY MONEY" only words that really mattered, just like that guy said in the movie, i take heat for grammar, for explaing a dumb question? Wow?
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saybow69 — 15 years ago(July 23, 2010 01:59 PM)
Sorry was tired, but even with all that bad grammar, i think it`s pretty clear to understand, that all that money was dirty money. As even guy in the movie said on phone "its not like its yours" Sad thing is, i have to explain that? If i wrote in greek, i would think you knew what i was trying to say? Movie made it clear as day, i dont care how bad grammar was, like i said. The movie explained it with 2 words "DIRTY MONEY". I shouldnt have had to say any more then those 2 words? But i did, so what. If you could at least read those 2 words. That is all that was needed to explain this question. Cause if you were confused buy the movie and was that all his money? Then i dont think a scholar could have explained it to you? Cause shouldnt have even needed to be explained and no matter how bad my gramar was, i agree. "DIRTY MONEY" is all you had to take away from that. And those words were in there, that should have been enough, no matter how how bad or in arabic, if could make out just the 2 words "DIRTY MONEY" only words that really mattered, just like that guy said in the movie, i take heat for grammar, for explaing a dumb question? Wow?
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chugdrewchug247 — 15 years ago(July 25, 2010 08:32 AM)
First of all none of the geeks who actually post on this thread regardless of how they respond will ever even have 282K let alone understand its worth today. The movie was set in 1990 when money had a greater value (ever hear of inflation or hear your grandma talk about how a movie cost a nickel?) And before you start ripping me, I AM one of those geeks who is posting and doesnt have close to 282K
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physics101 — 15 years ago(September 24, 2010 11:50 PM)
Most people have money saved in two ways when you work for the government. The first is personal savings; the second is government pension. I could be wrong, but I doubt that you could do anything with the pension funds prior to actually terminating employment. Maybe the feds had one or more plans you could move money around and inbetween, but as far as withdrawing them prior to retirement, I doubt you could touch those funds except for special circumstances - illness perhaps.
Private savings? Who knows how much someone like Muir could accumulate. 12 year old scotch isn't cheap. Living in the DC area isn't cheap (which he was doing at least at the end of the film). The Muir character struck me as someone who would spend some of his own money if that is what it took to accomplish a mission.
he should be making $282,000/yr
The President's salary isn't even that big now, let alone nearly 20 years ago. You don't really know what you are talking about. This is hardly a "hole" let alone a "big hole".