So, being a groupie is a good thing?
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AlreadyGone — 18 years ago(June 15, 2007 05:51 AM)
"Don't judge people, just because they aren't like you!"
Well yes, but I think that's what the original poster was complaining about, in the movie there's a bang-you-over-the-head-strong message against conservatism and for 'just having fun.' If that's not a philosophy you agree with it could feel like the film makers are judging you.
And let's be honest, it's a fairly silly philosophy. The OP was, I reckon, justified in responding somewhat aggressively. -
filmbuff-36 — 18 years ago(May 07, 2007 12:08 PM)
Yup, that's pretty much the "moral" of this moral-less story, or rather, lack of story. Hooray for Hollywood!
You forgot the other moral, "Do it true!"
Whatever that's supposed to mean.
Geez, I can't believe Hollywood had the nerve to finally make a movie that stated outright what they've been hinted at for the last 40 years. Growing up, becoming responsible and doing a job that actually benefits the community makes you a loser, and you can only be a decent human being if you devote your life to instant gratification, living in the light of other people's accomplishments and living from day to day in an uncertain haze of sex and booze.
Bless you good sirs for making this movie. Hopefully a whole slew of impressionable young girls see this movie, throw out their text books and head straight to the nearest rock concert to teach them the truly important life lessons.
I would say a movie needs to be made to show the antithesis of this film's view of groupies, but it's already been been made. It's called
Almost Famous
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AimJE — 18 years ago(May 08, 2007 04:26 PM)
Growing up, becoming responsible and doing a job that actually benefits the community makes you a loser, and you can only be a decent human being if you devote your life to instant gratification, living in the light of other people's accomplishments and living from day to day in an uncertain haze of sex and booze.
I didn't get that impression at all. Suzette was a mess, and at first Vinny seemed like a Stepford Wife. When the drastically different roads they took finally intersected again, it showed that Suzette needed to get her s**t together, and it was actually good for Vinny
and
her family if she did a few things that made her happy instead of ignoring her desires completely to please them. Suzette
seemed
to have nothing, Vinny
seemed
to have everything, but neither really did, and they learned that from each other. It didn't make Vinny any less of a good wife and mother, and it didn't make Suzette any less of a free spirit. Those are the conclusions I drew, but to each his/her own.
The "do it true" meant that you need to be true to yourself and not completely abandon the things that make you happy just because others expect you to follow the dreams they have for you instead of the ones you have for yourself. It doesn't mean that you have to be selfish and have a "screw you" attitude, but if you're not happy with your life, what's the point? You can be happy
and
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furienna — 17 years ago(March 01, 2009 09:25 PM)
I didn't get that impression at all. Suzette was a mess, and at first Vinny seemed like a Stepford Wife. When the drastically different roads they took finally intersected again, it showed that Suzette needed to get her s**t together, and it was actually good for Vinny and her family if she did a few things that made her happy instead of ignoring her desires completely to please them. Suzette seemed to have nothing, Vinny seemed to have everything, but neither really did, and they learned that from each other. It didn't make Vinny any less of a good wife and mother, and it didn't make Suzette any less of a free spirit. Those are the conclusions I drew, but to each his/her own.
The "do it true" meant that you need to be true to yourself and not completely abandon the things that make you happy just because others expect you to follow the dreams they have for you instead of the ones you have for yourself. It doesn't mean that you have to be selfish and have a "screw you" attitude, but if you're not happy with your life, what's the point? You can be happy and responsible.
I totally agree with you!
Yes, it's true! IMDB has reached Sweden! -
bleachedgirly — 18 years ago(July 11, 2007 01:48 PM)
just so you all know. some groupies don't go to rock shows just to beep rock stars. some girls just love live shows. and love music. it's not always about getting "close" to a rock star.
back in the day, groupies were named groupies, for the simple fact that they hung out with rock groups. back then it was all about being open minded and it was the sexual revolution, so now when girls do the SAME THING it's considered wrong. Yes times have changed and it's not as safe anymore to be like the girls in the 60's and 70's.
But to just put it out there, you can be a groupie and not beep anyone. And just be friends and chill with the band. -
sumthin_crazy — 18 years ago(January 26, 2008 08:18 PM)
everyone is being so judgemental. as long as an individual respects their own decisions and is comfortable with them, then who is anyone to say that their choices are wrong? that works both ways in the case of both lavinia and suzette.
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valvaljean — 18 years ago(August 25, 2007 07:48 PM)
I really doubt if groupies do it for fun. Probably makes them feel better about themselves to be able to think they were 'the one' picked for a roll in the kip with a 'star,' except ones such as the gal who was on VH-1 letting some 'rock god' throw bologna on her butt for recreation.
Rod Stewart's song Stay With Me
In the morning
Don't say you love me
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daria84 — 18 years ago(October 09, 2007 12:40 PM)
I wouldn't be a groupie but that doesn't mean that nobody should.. I don't give a rat's a$$ what people do with their lifes, they're choice..
Oh and this movie was awesome, whoever wants the 2 hours back, need to get them back by not wasting time watching dumb movies like Epic Movie or those movies for morons.
Bitch.. you don't have a future.. ~ The Bride ~ -
seh-7 — 15 years ago(May 09, 2010 07:58 PM)
by - MSStMarie on Sun Dec 30 2007 20:48:48
Read "I'm With the Band."
It's not all about sex.
I just want to reiterate that point. Pamela des Barres in her books makes a very clear distinction between groupies and star beep particularly in her latest book "Let's Spend the Night Together". Bebe Buell does this too. It's not just an attitude of "We legendary groupies are better than anyone else", it's pointing out that a true groupie is a rock muse - what is it that the girls say in Almost Famous? They are there because they love that silly piece of music so much, they are there because of the music, they are there to inspire the music.
Groupie doesn't necessarily equal sex. beep does = desperate sex though, someone who just wants to beep the famous guy/girl.
While The Banger Sisters doesn't really go too deeply into this stuff (that's Almost Famous' function!), there's nothing fundamentally wrong with BS's message that being a groupie is a fun thing to do.
And what's with all this conservative hatred of casual sex?? Hell - if anything takes place between two consenting adults, why is it so wrong? If a woman "sleep around" then some may consider her a slut but if a bloke does it then he's just spreading his wild oats. WTF??? That's a ridiculous double standard!
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MSStMarie — 15 years ago(May 19, 2010 05:11 PM)
All I said was THANK YOU.
I think the entire double standard IN SOCIETY is a load of crap.
I don't see a problem with casual sex, as long as you're safe.
I don't think anyone who HAS casual sex is low and awful.
I think LIARS are low and awful.
Aagh; you're a HEDGE!