This film is a bit sexist in my opinion
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dementia412 — 12 years ago(October 12, 2013 06:29 PM)
It's not that odd. There is a famous study where students were put into a prison; some as guards and some as prisoners. It took less than a day for the guards to start abusing the prisoners. Take a small group of men, remove all the controls that keep them acting properly, add in some terror and a commander who was likely already a psychopath, and it's easy to see how they could tip that way in a month.
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shoegal998 — 12 years ago(January 18, 2014 11:47 PM)
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think that sexism is something that was present in this film. One of the point in the film, in my opinion, is knowing what you had to do to stay alive, whether or not it was right. The initial intentions of Major West wasn't to rape women any more than it was Jim's intention to kill the infected little boy or Selena's intention to murder Mark. You kill an infected boy before he kills you. You murder your friend before he turns and kills you. You think the world is over and feel this responsibility to make sure humanity doesn't end. Most incidents like this in the film were showing that you have to do what you have to do to survive, no matter what it is. You could tell that Major West felt guilty for what was about to happen to the girls. But he felt it was what needed to be done to make sure humanity didn't end.
Now on to the pigs that were all for the rape. They were extremely excited about it. I think that this was the second point in the film: showing the awful things people would do because they can get away with it. But yes, they did turn into animals, which is because there's nothing stopping them. No one judging them. It's a scary thought, that's for sure. -
toe_jam_on_toast — 12 years ago(February 28, 2014 02:16 AM)
As someone who has been R-worded? I don't appreciate that analogy
Its NOT a sexist film!!! Btw? Are you a film and media student? I notice just how many people start asking filmic questions around the time for dissertations
"Forget acting. It's all about rock 'n' roll."
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toe_jam_on_toast — 12 years ago(March 26, 2014 01:11 PM)
Helpless? Serena was far from helpless, more it was just too many men.
I really don't like this whole analogy where it seems to have become ok to say that raping them would be ok for the continuance of the species
Nope. Power and control. R-word is a violent act and about control. Selena took most of that away by giving her some pillsand saved some for herself. You go limp? Theres no fun in for them.
Luckily? Most army guys are NOT like this.
"Forget acting. It's all about rock 'n' roll."
Brendan Fraser -
toe_jam_on_toast — 11 years ago(April 09, 2014 05:56 AM)
It's really just the word 'Helpless' that I personally have an issue with, it makes her seem weak, when she was far from it.
"You can take and abuse my body but you will never take my mind, my mind is my own." - Anon.
I view her as being kick-ass but will deal with each situation as it comes Gang rape or whatever She will deal with it and be strong every time.
Tho maybe Im reading into it just exactly what I want to?
"Forget acting. It's all about rock 'n' roll."
Brendan Fraser -
DreamCatchMe — 11 years ago(April 22, 2014 05:15 PM)
Exactlytake away women and go to the army! Men are going to become horny, then take away women full stop. They are going to see two women who as a group of men they are easily going to overpower, there will be a limited amount of things going through their minds, and it's not, "Oh I'm going to help this lady start anew in the world and become a mother." It is, "PUSSY!"
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lalinea97 — 11 years ago(July 08, 2014 05:12 PM)
Jesus. You need to gang rape a 14 year old on the day she watched her father die in order to save humanity? Having men and women would ensure humanity. Why would rape be any more necessary with just 2 women present? Eventually they likely would have had babies. Without being gang raped. Selena would have likely bred with Jim, obviously.
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cryconscry — 11 years ago(May 23, 2014 04:38 AM)
To have drama you need conflict and surprise. The heroes thought they had reached the promised land when they discovered the soldiers, which turned out to be as bad as the ragers. If there were no bad guys/girls in stories they would all be boring.
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mjr1114 — 11 years ago(September 07, 2014 08:20 PM)
The film would be sexist if it was condoning rape. It was not, in any way, doing that. I think people forget the meanings of words and try to bend them to mean what they want them to mean. The terminology the op was going for was 'misandrist'.
What was slightly addressed, above, was what would make people who may have not been violent in their previous lives be so easily okay with committing violent atrocities as keeping unwilling women as their own personal 'courtesans'. It is the idea that the world as you know it has ended. In this film, they truly believed there was going to be no more world. One officer was going to kill himself believing there was no hope. This can change even the most pacifistic person. Were their subsequent reactions justified? No. One would think that once they saw their world wasn't as dark as they had feared, they would have found the good that was once within themselves, to not think about harming the females. There was the one officer that was against it and was killed for trying to be the voice of reason. This, alone, was proof the movie wasn't saying all men would turn into rapists. Like others stated above, those others were probably not truly good people, in their past lives.
The point of the movie, pretty much, is that people can be good and people can be bad. The pro-rapists were as bad and fearful as the infected.
Credo ergo sum