This film is a bit sexist in my opinion
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toe_jam_on_toast — 11 years ago(April 09, 2014 05:56 AM)
It's really just the word 'Helpless' that I personally have an issue with, it makes her seem weak, when she was far from it.
"You can take and abuse my body but you will never take my mind, my mind is my own." - Anon.
I view her as being kick-ass but will deal with each situation as it comes Gang rape or whatever She will deal with it and be strong every time.
Tho maybe Im reading into it just exactly what I want to?
"Forget acting. It's all about rock 'n' roll."
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DreamCatchMe — 11 years ago(April 22, 2014 05:15 PM)
Exactlytake away women and go to the army! Men are going to become horny, then take away women full stop. They are going to see two women who as a group of men they are easily going to overpower, there will be a limited amount of things going through their minds, and it's not, "Oh I'm going to help this lady start anew in the world and become a mother." It is, "PUSSY!"
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lalinea97 — 11 years ago(July 08, 2014 05:12 PM)
Jesus. You need to gang rape a 14 year old on the day she watched her father die in order to save humanity? Having men and women would ensure humanity. Why would rape be any more necessary with just 2 women present? Eventually they likely would have had babies. Without being gang raped. Selena would have likely bred with Jim, obviously.
The major just wanted to get his boys sex as a treat. -
cryconscry — 11 years ago(May 23, 2014 04:38 AM)
To have drama you need conflict and surprise. The heroes thought they had reached the promised land when they discovered the soldiers, which turned out to be as bad as the ragers. If there were no bad guys/girls in stories they would all be boring.
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mjr1114 — 11 years ago(September 07, 2014 08:20 PM)
The film would be sexist if it was condoning rape. It was not, in any way, doing that. I think people forget the meanings of words and try to bend them to mean what they want them to mean. The terminology the op was going for was 'misandrist'.
What was slightly addressed, above, was what would make people who may have not been violent in their previous lives be so easily okay with committing violent atrocities as keeping unwilling women as their own personal 'courtesans'. It is the idea that the world as you know it has ended. In this film, they truly believed there was going to be no more world. One officer was going to kill himself believing there was no hope. This can change even the most pacifistic person. Were their subsequent reactions justified? No. One would think that once they saw their world wasn't as dark as they had feared, they would have found the good that was once within themselves, to not think about harming the females. There was the one officer that was against it and was killed for trying to be the voice of reason. This, alone, was proof the movie wasn't saying all men would turn into rapists. Like others stated above, those others were probably not truly good people, in their past lives.
The point of the movie, pretty much, is that people can be good and people can be bad. The pro-rapists were as bad and fearful as the infected.
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gargarie — 10 years ago(May 06, 2015 11:47 PM)
West, who did not seem to be a rapist himself, but rather a man obsessed with more abstract forms of power and control, used the sexuality of the men under his command to motivate them. Prior to his promise of finding them women, his men were becoming suicidal. He encouraged base and violent desires in his soldiers in order to displace their despair.
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TexasBEAST — 10 years ago(May 08, 2015 05:31 PM)
No, the film is not sexist, because it did not portray all the male characters as sexist, nor did it defend those male characters who were sexists.
It merely dramatized that a lot of people are sexists, and when given the opportunity and temptation, their sexism will rear its butt-ugly head.
But not "all the men" were depicted as rapists. Remember: Jim, Mark, Jim's father, Frank, and the New Age SGT Farrell.
I think that MAJ West was a sexist because he did not see the females as deserving of equal consideration of their wishes. He ONLY deemed the males as being worthy of consideration. He thought of the soldiers as "his boys", and he felt a duty to look out for their wants and desires. And he even made Jim an offer to have a go at the ladies, as well. For MAJ West, it was truly "bro's before ho's".
But he did not seem to be the type to go in and join in on the rape, directly, though. As a college-educated man, he knew that there was something wrong with his plan. He tried to rationalize it as a way to do his duty to his men, and also as a way to do his duty to humanity. But he was holding back, himselfbecause he knew it was wrong.
(Heck, maybe MAJ West was both sexist and gay.)
And yet, in the end, all he could think was to condemn Jim for killing "his boys" in defense of those females. The thought was unfathomable for the major. The notion of treating a woman as an equal, or of protecting a woman from the base desires of a man, just didn't register with the guy.
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registers-944-48791 — 10 years ago(May 24, 2015 05:20 PM)
U are the sexist, not the plot writer.
He just wanted to show that it's not just deseased people that can act like that, that any body can be like that too. That we're attacking each other dayly.
Rape was just used as a way to show that. Nothing about sex. -
Navaros — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 12:59 AM)
He just wanted to show that it's not just deseased people that can act like that, that any body can be like that too.
But the script
doesn't
show "any body" to be like that. It only shows the men to be like that, and in contrast, it only shows the women being saintly victims/martyrs.
If the script actually did what you said it does, then it would represent the women as trying to rape the men too, or something like that. -
crissttigaldames — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 08:09 PM)
The film would be sexist if it was condoning rape. It was not, in any way, doing that. I think people forget the meanings of words and try to bend them to mean what they want them to mean. The terminology the op was going for was 'misandrist'.
No, you're not understanding the terminology. "Sexism" is gender neutral, you can be sexist against men or women.
And yeah, that all the soldiers would act like that (and it hadn't even been that long) was ridiculous.