The Grudge vs. Ju-On
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DaisyDuke79 — 21 years ago(November 22, 2004 11:29 AM)
A little bit of SPOILERS
I just saw Ju-On for the first time last night, and saw The Grudge a month or so ago. I thought that The Grudge was, like you said, a lot more scary than Ju-on. I also thought that The Grudge explained what happened in the house a little bit more clearly than Ju-On did. I am somewhat confused though, because neither Ju-On nor The Grudge told how Kayako died or Toshio. Well The Grudge showed a brief scene of Toshio being drowned in the bathtub by his father. Other than that, I didn't see how they died. Or any of the other characters for that matter. Not that I really want to see bad things happen, but maybe they could have explained more detail in words or something. Also, I realize that a lot of Ju-On was probably lost in translation to English. So maybe Ju-On did explain things more in depth. I don't knowany insight for me??? -
THE_Tetsuo — 20 years ago(April 05, 2006 12:25 AM)
I normally think that, but Ju-On really wasn't as scary as the Grudge. I thought the Ringu movies were far superior to their American counterparts; ditto for Dark Water.
But the Grudge was MUCH scarier than Ju-On. Ju-On's plot went in too many places. The Grudge was more focused on a key set of characters. Ju-On introduced more (like the kids exploring the haunted house) that made following the movie a little too confusing.
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nicman911 — 19 years ago(October 17, 2006 09:28 AM)
"""Re: The Grudge vs. Ju-On
by - hbdale309 on Tue Jun 13 2006 16:10:38
"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky
It's funny because she sucked a Democrats d*ck.
Hail to the King, baby. """
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flumpmonkey-1 — 19 years ago(September 25, 2006 11:14 AM)
One scene that was deleted from the original Ju-On explains a lotthe woman who died had her throat crushed, but her husband didn't totally kill her. That is where the guttaral noise comes from, and that is why it is so horriblebecause she slowly died instead of a quick flick of the wrist. The original is better than the American version for one reasonhow many who saw the American are bothered by it to this day? Ditto for the Japanese? Trust me, the latter sticks in your mind.
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jmacgrath — 19 years ago(September 26, 2006 12:01 PM)
i personally loved The Grudge(2004 can't wait for The Grudge 2!) and i think that it was far superior to Ju-On which was a HUGE letdown for me. I thought that SMG did a terrific job and the film WAS SCARY! also, in The Grudge(2004) there is a deleted scene which shows more of how kayako and toshio were killed but it all was edited (along with the father hanging from the ceiling) for a PG-13 rating.why a PG-13? for profits but i think that the film could have done even better if those scenes were not edited out.
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Z_cm — 21 years ago(March 08, 2005 08:54 AM)
"I am somewhat confused though, because neither Ju-On nor The Grudge told how Kayako died or Toshio"
if you buy the dvd with all the extras, you see a cut scene commented by the director, that shows how takeo killed his wife (although his spirit is just recreating the event). i think the other characters, except maybe tatsuya's wife, don't suffer a violent death as in, broken bones, slit throats, etc. like kayako's they either die like they're in shock or they're dragged into the darkness where their souls become trapped. watch all the interviews and cut scenes on the dvd, it clears up the obscure bits.
although now i'm not so sure if i should've posted this on the other ju-on board. but the dvd explains it
i was actually reading this thread to see if the grudge was better than ju-on heh. i'm wondering if the hollywood cgi bonanza ruins the movie, cause it usually does. ju-on is great because of that, everything stays hidden until the very last moment so it's a lot scarier
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heathfair2004 — 20 years ago(February 21, 2006 03:28 AM)
I've been studying this for a whiule in colledge so heres something to clear it up:
Kayako was killed as her husband twisted her neck around, splintering her spinal chord and voicebox which explains why she can only make that weird crackling gurgle sound.
Toshio was drowned by his father after he killed toshio's cat. thats why he appears when the detective is trying to revive toshio in the bathroom, the ghosts relive their deaths remember.
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andvarenaut — 20 years ago(March 30, 2006 05:04 AM)
The Grudge disappointed me heavily. Seems to me that the Juon played upon a lasting sinister feeling, whereas The Grudge had to have the typical ghost story shock effects crammed in at large.
As for the lack of explanation Id say less is more. Horror movies often get choked in too much explaning, be the psycological or metaphysical.
As for the final scene, it seems to me the director couldnt decide whether to use the final girl cliche or not.
Original Juon and Juon 2 are two of the most frightening and lingering horror movies Ive ever seen.
..still wondering why Buffy doesnt use her slayer skills and kicks some serious ghost arse:) -
ringo_bonnie_pink — 21 years ago(December 05, 2004 12:29 AM)
sure the ghosts look fake If you think about difference in budget Im sure you will figure out whyl think american try to hard to make something "scary" I was scared beep when I saw Ju-on was afraid of tables and beds but when I saw the grudge I laughed through the whole thing it was so fake and the acting terrible
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taler — 21 years ago(January 05, 2005 08:03 AM)
Hey come on "ringo bonnie pink", even if you prefer the japanese version you cant mean that you found the remake funny. The difference between the movies are not so big that one is the scariest movie ever and the other one is funny. I think you are just one of those who says "the original is always the best" regardless the quality of the remake. Well often you are right but in this case its even the same director as the original, I cant understand why he would make a remake (specially with the budget of a hollywood film)that feels fake.
Of course youre entitled to have your own opinion I just wanna say that i disagree. I for sure didnt got the feeling of anything being "fake", but maybe thats just me:)