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    meshan1 — 19 years ago(May 03, 2006 01:06 PM)

    The dead girl in the ring was hot

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      BlindinfuZion — 19 years ago(May 11, 2006 04:25 PM)

      I will admit that The Grudge was scarierbut I still went and bought Ju-On just to see how different they were. And while the ghosts were scarier in The Grudgeafter watching Ju-On I was surprised that the distorted television scene from Ju-On didn.t get brought over to The Grudge.
      It was creepy 🙂

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        iheartmoviess — 19 years ago(May 20, 2006 07:57 PM)

        i thought ju-on was way scarier.

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          Lord_Beef_Jerky — 19 years ago(May 27, 2006 10:39 AM)

          The Grudge was alright, probably the best japanese horror remake to date. The kid was scarier in the american version, and doesn't really work in the japanese version. And then it stops here. The complexity, directing, acting and creepiness is hands down way better in Ju-On. Like the dilemma with Ringu and The Ring, the american version has been dumbed down quite a bit, and the japanese cultural aspect has of course been all together deleted. Ju-On is seething with atmosphere from start to end, mostly because you never know what's going to happen next, as the film isn't directly linear. The Grudge has too linear a story and the american input destroyed a lot of the atmosphere in favour of CGI, bad acting in a terrible love story and often lingers on downright sillyness. It still has some good moments, but it doesn't really pull off what Ju-On did.
          Ju-On 8/10
          The Grudge 6/10

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            vivalasteveo182 — 19 years ago(May 28, 2006 11:30 AM)

            The Grudge was basically just a watered down hollywood version of Ju-on. It was dumbed down for american audiences and there was no complexity whatsoever to it. Japanese movies are usually far better than their american remakes. That's why you never see japanese remakes of american movies. Basically everything good and complex was drained out of Ju-on in order to turn it into just another typical american horror movie.

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              dontaskme_formyid — 19 years ago(May 30, 2006 08:21 AM)

              the original!!the grudge sucks! it's nothing compared to the original version..you can see that by the intro of the movie, the american version didn't show the gore scene from the original version.

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                petermoranman — 19 years ago(June 13, 2006 08:37 PM)

                After watching both on HBO, I can say clearly that Ju-On is scarier and better. The Grudget is a medeocre remake and the only reason people say it's better is becuase they don't have to read subtitles. Ju-On is better made and scarier.
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                  sepsism — 19 years ago(June 21, 2006 07:02 PM)

                  I honestly think it comes down to what order you watch these two films in that dictates which you prefer.
                  I originally saw the amercian version in a cinema with my girlfriend, knew nothing of the film (read no reviews) and really didnt know what to expect except poor acting from michelle-geller. It ended up scaring the sh*t out of me (more with jumps and dreading what was coming next than being outwright creepy) but I enjoyed it thoroughly.
                  I saw Ju-on a good year later, and found it reasonably creepy and in some ways superior to the remake (atmosphere etc).
                  I saw the remake again on TV recently, and I must say it was CRAP compared to the japanese version! I couldnt believe I had found it spooky the first time around, but hey.
                  All comes down to timing IMHO

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                    hardcorecactus2003 — 19 years ago(June 24, 2006 04:35 AM)

                    Honestly,I saw Ju-On the other day on one of the movie channels (Forget which one it was) and it was definitely scarier.It did some actual scares instead of "BOO!" like pretty much all American horror movies love to do.The remake also made the stupid noise the mother made and made it even more annoying,so that's a minor plus for Ju-On.I thought it was really cool in Ju-On that they actually show the father ghost and he actually walks and is sort of scary instead of the annoying mother ghost doing the crawly thingy while the remake doesn't show him at all (And if it did,it wasn't automatically noticeable)

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                      Meven_Stoffat — 19 years ago(June 28, 2006 12:38 PM)

                      I saw Ju-On: The Curse last summer, and it was officially the scariest movie I ever saw. Having saw the american Grudge, that was scary too. Then I saw Ju-On: The Grudge, and I litterally lauged so hard. Pure comedy! THe JOTG2 was scarier. So What I pick is Ju-On The Curse.
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                        Knoxvicious — 19 years ago(July 17, 2006 12:48 PM)

                        I honestly think it comes down to what order you watch these two films in that dictates which you prefer.
                        I agree with you on that too, since a lot of people that said they hated the Grudge saw Ju-on first. How was The Grudge not scary????
                        You've got to be crazy!
                        Before I got Ju-on I was thinking of not getting it since I thought it'd be a LOT scarier. And the American verison had already scared the complet sht out of me. But it actually wasn't. Yeah, I know. How is that possible!?!?
                        But then again, I saw The Grudge in theaters and in theaters it's a million times more scarier.
                        But still, the women in the American verison seems a lot scarier, the one in Ju-on seemed more human like if you know what I'm getting at.
                        Plus in Ju-on they didn't have in the beginning that girl getting sucked up into that attic or that part where the guy was walking down the stair and you see the jawless girl, or the part where that one women was walkng up the stairs and she looks down and you see the thing climbing up after her, or the part where the main character was on the bus and you see the dead womens face just pop out at you.
                        Yeah, all the parts that scared the sh
                        t out of me they didn't have in ju-on.
                        Or they had it and it wasn't as scary to me.
                        I also felt at the part where the women was in the elevator wasn't as scary as in the American verison. I mean, in that one you just see the kid there passing from window to window from window and he doesn't move, but in the American one you see him get closer and closer and closer.
                        There was things done better Ju-on but I still think the American verison was scarier. I still wonder, how the hell is our verison scarier than the Japenze!??!? That's like, the greatest achveiment ever!
                        This is just my opinion too
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                          LiteratiDae — 19 years ago(July 21, 2006 09:58 PM)

                          Ju-On is the better film.
                          Hands down.
                          Sarah Michelle Geller as an American nurse? American family? Granted, it's an American remake, but if you're going to butcher it so much, place it in America, not Japan. I almost found it insulting to even use Japan in The Grudge.
                          What was annoying is how they made the woman in The Grudge wear the same clothes. When the guy sees the pictures, and she's in every background, she's wearing white all the time. Didn't she ever change her clothes? Did she stalk him for just one day? They could have used other bright colors to make her stand out.
                          Her ghost just looked too CGI. Didn't scare me. What scared me was in Ju-On, when she's going down the stairs, how solid she is. The way she moves, stares it's scarier because it comes across as being more authentic. She looks more like a human who is pained and in need, where as the ghost in The Grudge just looks so crappily CGI.
                          And the plot was spoonfed to the audience in The Grudge. Boring.
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                            Home-Brewed — 19 years ago(August 03, 2006 04:21 AM)

                            The Grudge was just another stupid American remake, that deserves to be forgotten It wasn't scary, it wasn't even good. American filmmakers needs to start using their own brain - a long shot I know - and come up with something themselves. But that will never happen; American filmmaking is falling apart. Ju-on was much much better
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                                fulouzero — 19 years ago(August 05, 2006 10:01 PM)

                                Ju-On easily wins seeing it way before the American release, I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes of the American remake.

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                                  sepsism — 19 years ago(August 07, 2006 09:06 PM)

                                  Before we get too out of hand lets remmeber both were directed by Takashi Shimizu.
                                  I personally found the Amercian version scarier as I had no idea what to expect, I found Ju-On less spooky as I knew what I was getting myself into.
                                  Ju-On: The Grudge 2 is legitimately scary, especially after a few puffs.
                                  I acknowledge that the Japanese version is far superior (after comparing the two), but hey its all in the timing.

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                                    LiteratiDae — 19 years ago(August 17, 2006 03:39 PM)

                                    Well, The Grudge was indeed directed by Takashi Shimizu, but he had some help from Sam Raimi (that's why Ted Raimi's in the film, as well). I actually love Raimi's work most of the time, it's just the remake was meant to be dumbed down and CGI'ed for a Western audience.
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                                      wright_570 — 19 years ago(August 22, 2006 12:34 PM)

                                      i saw the ju-ons and there confusing and not scary in one bit the grudge however made alot more sence ju-on suckedsh!t
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                                        sepsism — 19 years ago(August 22, 2006 09:32 PM)

                                        Yeah as far as I know it was Sam's idea to remake the film for the USA anyway. I dont think they did too bad of a job "porting" it over for western viewing, I definitely scared the crap out of me initally. Provided it inspires people to seek out the Japanese original, and thus leads them to other great Japanese cinema then I'm all for it.

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                                          Rattaplan — 19 years ago(August 28, 2006 08:49 AM)

                                          I think they were both entertaining flicks, but The American version was definately scarier to me.

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