The dead girl in the ring was hot
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LiteratiDae — 19 years ago(July 21, 2006 09:58 PM)
Ju-On is the better film.
Hands down.
Sarah Michelle Geller as an American nurse? American family? Granted, it's an American remake, but if you're going to butcher it so much, place it in America, not Japan. I almost found it insulting to even use Japan in The Grudge.
What was annoying is how they made the woman in The Grudge wear the same clothes. When the guy sees the pictures, and she's in every background, she's wearing white all the time. Didn't she ever change her clothes? Did she stalk him for just one day? They could have used other bright colors to make her stand out.
Her ghost just looked too CGI. Didn't scare me. What scared me was in Ju-On, when she's going down the stairs, how solid she is. The way she moves, stares it's scarier because it comes across as being more authentic. She looks more like a human who is pained and in need, where as the ghost in The Grudge just looks so crappily CGI.
And the plot was spoonfed to the audience in The Grudge. Boring.
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Home-Brewed — 19 years ago(August 03, 2006 04:21 AM)
The Grudge was just another stupid American remake, that deserves to be forgotten It wasn't scary, it wasn't even good. American filmmakers needs to start using their own brain - a long shot I know - and come up with something themselves. But that will never happen; American filmmaking is falling apart. Ju-on was much much better
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sepsism — 19 years ago(August 07, 2006 09:06 PM)
Before we get too out of hand lets remmeber both were directed by Takashi Shimizu.
I personally found the Amercian version scarier as I had no idea what to expect, I found Ju-On less spooky as I knew what I was getting myself into.
Ju-On: The Grudge 2 is legitimately scary, especially after a few puffs.
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LiteratiDae — 19 years ago(August 17, 2006 03:39 PM)
Well, The Grudge was indeed directed by Takashi Shimizu, but he had some help from Sam Raimi (that's why Ted Raimi's in the film, as well). I actually love Raimi's work most of the time, it's just the remake was meant to be dumbed down and CGI'ed for a Western audience.
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sepsism — 19 years ago(August 22, 2006 09:32 PM)
Yeah as far as I know it was Sam's idea to remake the film for the USA anyway. I dont think they did too bad of a job "porting" it over for western viewing, I definitely scared the crap out of me initally. Provided it inspires people to seek out the Japanese original, and thus leads them to other great Japanese cinema then I'm all for it.
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sithlordbill — 19 years ago(August 28, 2006 09:08 PM)
Ju-On was way freakier. everything was just so quiet. it was unsettling.. besides.. the american version was changed so much it was just another cookie-cutter ghost movie. Ju-On was far more unique and eerie.. such as how it would show the ghosts but not make any audio clue about it it would make you a little nervous.
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smeagol05 — 19 years ago(September 03, 2006 07:16 PM)
I HATED the Grudge, Ju-On was way better. I really felt that Ju-On was much scarier. It had a subtle horror that terrified me. It also didn't try to make crappy excuses for a blonde American actress to be in it. Man, The Grudge was stupid.
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suprsnail — 19 years ago(September 09, 2006 04:15 AM)
I agree, The Grudge was a beep mess of a movie.
It wasn't scary in the least, but it's probably because I saw Ju-On first, so everything was predictable.
But, seriously, Ju-On is worth a rental.
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jamie_crying_moon — 19 years ago(September 11, 2006 09:56 PM)
Yes sir, the grudge was a mess !!! But have a peek at the director's name : Tak-kun again, seems like he received cash to spoil his own child. In fact, the remake could have been so good without the white, or without us, the yellow. I myself prefer full-blood Eastern or Western creepy movies, the fact that they mix us with others gave me some dead laughing !!! You know, ya, why didn't Tak-kun get the whole American casts, it'd've been scarrier. I hate the mixture, clumsy comedy !
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Warrior_Kalia — 19 years ago(October 09, 2006 02:10 PM)
True enough. Sarah Michelle doing an eastern horror film made me lawl.
Ju-On was three million times better than The Grudge, in my opinon. It wasn't that scary, but it did make you feel tense, and it had an interesting plot.
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babeedee — 19 years ago(October 14, 2006 01:44 PM)
the grudge looks like slick hollywood visual effects. the little kids (ghosts) in ju-on are WAY scarier because they look, and are, real. theres no way the hollywood version competes on the level of sheer creepiness. yeah, the hollywood version has louder sound effects- but sorry, you can't buy creepiness
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Jayne_Doe_Cobb — 19 years ago(October 15, 2006 06:50 AM)
I was so surprised reading how many people thought the remake was scarier that I just had to respond. How anyone can say the remake was scarier than the original is beyond me. The CGI in the remake totally killed off any creepiness. The effects in the original were far more effective and apart from the visible thick layer of make-up on the blue-ish kid were actually far better too.
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Bad_Machine — 19 years ago(October 20, 2006 02:31 PM)
I've been a fan of horror since my teens, and through the years I've watched all the classics plus loads of obscure/cult ones. Nothing really creeped me out, until I got to know Asian (and Japanese in particular) horror. Some people talk about The Ring and The Eye series, those had their moments but nothing beats the Ju-on series (and especially the first one) in sheer shivers-down-your-spine creepiness. The combination of eerie sounds, gloomy images and scary make-up effects, the camera angles, sometimes even the quiteness of it when all you can hear is the white background noise of silence (you know what I mean) and you know something's gonna happen, it all conspires to create a superbly threatening atmosphere. Never felt that numbing feeling down my spine since the original Exorcist, and thought I was immune/anaesthetized/overdosed to it all, until "Ju-on: The Curse" came my way and reassured me that there was nothing wrong with my senses. I was just watching too much american "pop-corn horror" trash, and needed Ju-on to wake me up again to what a really scary movie should be about. Thank you Takashi Shimizu
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PennyForYourTots — 17 years ago(January 11, 2009 12:37 PM)
I saw the American versions of The Grudge in theaters a few years back and liked them both quite a bit (pretty creepy.) However, just recently I saw all 4 of the Ju-Ons and find them to be much scarier than the remakes. I love the subtleness of them and the creepier/darker atmosphere. The fact that they're low-budget actually helped (kinda like the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre).
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