The only film I've had to walk out the cinema
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knight-in-black-leather — 9 years ago(August 22, 2016 03:29 PM)
I can appreciate that some people find the violence hard to watch, but the film is about Christ's passion, which means "suffering." One of the reasons this film resonates with so many is because the violence is not gratuitous. Jesus was scourged (whipped with straps that had jagged pieces of metal or bone attached to them designed to gouge out the flesh) and was then crucified, so it would be difficult to show these actions accurately on film without being violent. The important thing to remember is Christ's love for mankind is so great that He would endure such pain to save us. God bless.
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uther8 — 9 years ago(August 22, 2016 11:36 PM)
One of the reasons this film resonates with so many is because the violence is not gratuitous.
Utter rubbish.
As already noted:
"Gibson added non-scriptural accounts of imaginary torture scenes, apparently because he found the Gospels' simple Passion Narratives far too insufficient for the hideous gore-fest that his ample imagination and wounded psyche were compelling him to create."
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marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 06:24 AM)
Yeah. After watching a film filled with about 93% gratuitous violence, the True Believer doth protest too much (glad I have 'em on Ignore)!
it was a depiction of what occurred, from the Bible.
you dont have us on ignore, the smily indicates your lying.
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uther8 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 09:42 AM)
it was a depiction of what occurred, from the Bible.
Then you'll be able to show us the passages in the Biblele where this gratutitous violence occurred.right?
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 02:09 PM)
Way to corner 'em! The other poster needs to document from the NT:
Jesus killing an "evil" snake.
A slow-motion fight in the Garden of Gethsemane between disciples and Temple soldiers wearing very silly hats.
Soldiers throwing Jesus off a bridge.
A friendly Pilate offering Jesus something to drink.
Post-flogging, the two Marys sopping up Jesus' blood from the pavement with Mrs. Pilate's help.
Little demon kids casing Judas.
An androgynous Satan and its infant.
Soldiers dislocating Jesus' shoulder while crucifying him.
Soldiers dropping Jesus full-frontally onto the ground while he is on the cross.
The raven that plucks out the "bad" thief's eye.
None of these scenes and events are biblical. Surely the other poster knows of the Bible's injunction not to add or subtract from its narrative. Sadly, Gibson does both, thus rendering him a blasphemer, and thus rendering the other poster a blasphemy supporter. -
uther8 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 02:19 PM)
Way to corner 'em!
They keep insisting things that clearly aren't in the Bible. Jesus in heaven with his wounds intact? I don't recall any such announcement, nor do I see logic in the idea. and of course all of the other examples you gave. I mean, such "facts" would obviously be verifiable by the Bibleyet somehow they can't deliver them.
Possibly why these liars choose to block me - when confronted by facts and calls of verification (and let's face it, the Bible is the only place they can come from) they leap up and down, call names and block you. Funny that.
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 03:08 PM)
Those pathetic people are operating from within a system of biblical inerrancy. But what do you call an inerrant book which commits error? "Errant" is the first word that comes to mind. They are in a cognitive bind where their belief in biblical inerrancy is, tragically, coupled with their belief in salvation, which depends on accepting the Bible as God's inerrant "Word". Challenge that Word, and you're placing your salvation in doubt, potentially to the point that you lose it. Therefore they can't accept any counter-evidence, and they cannot honestly debate with others who hold opposing views - again, because to do so would automatically and immediately jeopardize their "Salvation". So it's easier to put posters like you on "Ignore" than to fake the appearance of logically and open-mindedly debating scriptural issues
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uther8 — 9 years ago(August 24, 2016 12:16 AM)
So it's easier to put posters like you on "Ignore" than to fake the appearance of logically and open-mindedly debating scriptural issues
Quite. Upset their own personal equilibrium, errant and dishonest as it is, and they have to escape it. They know the truth is there but they know they can't acknowledge it.
The irony is when the bible commands truth, they are the first to actually spit God in the eye and ignore it.
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Rumble_McSkirmish — 9 years ago(August 24, 2016 11:02 PM)
Oh yes, kibl went all dramatic flair when he/she/it started doling out the ignores.
Kibs was caught some time ago posing as a woman, then came out as a gay man, and when asked why he would choose a religion that says he's doomed to hell the crys of oppression and being intolerant to gays started to flow. Then kibs made the claim he was only there to share information despite arguing, poorly, for pages upon pages in every thread to that point. Kibs got smoked everywhere, particularly when it came to "Objective morality" and "unconditional love of god".
I think kibs is still trying to figure out why leveling Germany in WWII wasn't moral, but an accepted evil
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uther8 — 9 years ago(August 24, 2016 11:19 PM)
Kibs got smoked everywhere, particularly when it came to "Objective morality" and "unconditional love of god".
Absolutely, there are so many patrhetic attempts tht have blown Kibs out of the waterso many. Like the slavery in the Bible which she pretty much states was voluntary (lol) or the "soft dinosaur tissue" creationist argument (Funny how she steers clear of that stuff now), and not to mention her classic "How fast is the speed of vision" hilarity!
Like the coward she is, she blocks anyone who dare confront her with facts, every argument she's involved in she runs away from. She ha NEVER come out on top.
Marty's the same - he can't even last as long a kibs, he's a total fraud who knows he can't win - well, his arguments are just so easily demolished he can't even play games like Kibl
Really, Kibs loses all her arguments on her own.
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Navaros — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:28 PM)
Those pathetic people are operating from within a system of biblical inerrancy.
So you admit that you don't believe the Bible and you blasphemously claim that it is errant, yet you simultaneously assert that people should take advice about "biblical accuracy" from you. ROFL! The idiocy/hypocrisy of your statements is hilarious!
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 10:17 PM)
you admit that you don't believe the Bible and you blasphemously claim that it is errant
I can't commit "blasphemy" against a book that doesn't come from God. Only you fundies can do that. And the Bible is errant, shot through with moral, theological, spiritual error, as well as self-contradiction. You're either pretending not to know this, in which case you're a scared little ostrich burying his head in the sands of deep ignorance, or you really aren't aware of it - in which case you are so biblically ignorant you should acquire a biblical education and come back on here after you've learned at least the basics. -
Navaros — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:25 PM)
bastasch8647, you claim that the Bible does not say what it does say, and that the Bible does say what it does not say, all of the time.
Taking advice from you about "biblical accuracy" would be equivalent to taking advice from adolf hitler about how to be a good citizen.
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 10:13 PM)
bastasch8647, you claim that the Bible does not say what it does say
Lying again. So show me some examples of me deliberately misrepresenting the letter of scripture. On the contrary, what I am doing is showing scripture's errors, and your own - something far different.
Taking advice from you about "biblical accuracy" would be equivalent to taking advice from adolf hitler about how to be a good citizen
Glad you like it.
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Navaros — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 03:03 PM)
So show me some examples of me deliberately misrepresenting the letter of scripture. On the contrary, what I am doing is showing scripture's errors, and your own - something far different.
Every single time you say anything about God, the Bible, or Satan is a perfect example or you deliberately misrepresenting the scriptures.
what I am doing is showing scripture's errors, and your own - something far different.
The scriptures have no errors and nor do I when I explain them. The very fact that you claim the Bible has errors proves in and of itself that you are 100% unqualified ever to make any comment about the Bible.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 06:02 AM)
The important thing to remember is Christ's love for mankind is so great that He would endure such pain to save us.
That was the point of Mad Mel's film, which was as always, terrifically directed. Even if flawed, due to the manner of the way he chose to tell the story, Gibson's film is still very powerful. Not being Christian and not siding with the Christian notion of duality and a separate God, I see the scouring that many see as overkill, as part of Mel's point as well. Christ was enable to endure more than the ordinary man, due to his immense love and energy that he emanated from him.
Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests.